EVE General Discussion

Eve is mostly about Power, whether its military, 0.0 space domination, economy, size of membership, even ganking miners or conquering 1 man corp is a sign of power for some... however....

I think most military / space / member count corps / alliances power is apparent to public, however, the economic dominance still vague to many... which corp is doing highest income / member or profit margin on capital invested or fastest capital growth, we can't know... and certainly the mega LCD screen in our captain's quarter can't tell us about that

Taking that into consideration and adding to it the fact that the corp share's trading is not active as it should be ... this might lead to an investment from CCP's side on developing what to be called >> EVE - WALL STREET<<

Imagine all corps subscribing to the new EVE's stock market can show their financial results on quarterly / monthly basis and thus affecting the market / demand on their own stock available in the market and can be purchased by members seeking for a passive income or just a new hobby for traders to make extra isk from day to day stock manipulation

No scams from fake shares / no more bragging about how economically effective a corp or alliance is without a proof / no more "look how big i am" rather than "Look how my management is smarter at running its operations"

EVE - Wall Street will drive more innovations from CEOs, more success stories to float on the surface .. and through it, CCP and public can assess what type of corps is mostly profitable (is it Piracy / anti-piracy / PVE / Incursions / mining & industry / trading or even 3rd party services ... can it be a new idea that still in the secret files of un-known corp?

I hope this message reaches CCP to say: Its not only about Wars and Space dominance, give more chance to economical Wars to take place

P.S : i am a PVP guy, however, would like to see how others in different careers can be successful

don't forget information is power, as well. shouldn't be surprising that some (most?) want to keep it to themselves.

The thing you are missing is that McD's does not usually react to TacoBell gaining market share by hiring mercenaries to blow up every truckload of tortillas they see headed into town. The opacity of the stock market is really an outgrowth of the stability of the environment. Eve's a little too Wild West to wear your wallet in the open. It would be fun but risky. Best way to play that would be to use an alt in a NPC corp to hold your bragging rights....

I lol'd

The Eve stock market could use some love. On the other hand, the feature is hardly used, thus it's not important enough to get too much priority at the moment.

There's the love. Round on me....

Economic warfare is quite subversive, it takes some rock lifting to find the roaches involved.

The problem with this is that there is no basis for actual trading of corporate stock in EVE. In the real world, stocks represent a monetary investment in the company, which they use to further their gains, increasing their value.

In other words, when you give money to a real world company, they use it to build up as much trust as they can in their ability to produce long term gains, because making money in the real world is a lot harder than it is in EVE. The rapidity of returns and ease of earning in EVE makes this a much different story when you give the same money to an EVE player. If they can make money at a certain rate with a given amount of ISK borrowed, they can certainly manage to do that all on their own after a week or so after returning your ISK and happily keep all the profits to themselves.

In addition, there are securities built up in the real world to keep the money that goes into falsely hyped investments from getting stolen.

If a number of investors give a company owner a large amount of money to invest in their project IRL expecting a say in how things are done and some healthy returns, and that person laughs and buys themselves a Ferrari, that's called fraud and embezzlement.
If a number of investors give an EVE player a large amount of ISK to invest in their project in game expecting a say in how things are done and some healthy returns, and that person laughs and buys themselves an officer Machariel, that's called having a good time.

Yes, but there is still no actual basis for trading it. Nor, in fact, is there a mechanic to do so securely; share purchases have to be done through a secure third party if the involved do not trust each other.

Stock right now are a mechanic for sharing responsibility and trust in a corporation, giving some people veto power by votes or maintaining an influence in case the CEO were to die or quit the game or somesuch.

+1

I love economics. It's part of why I play EvE. I love the open economy, and I notice corporations have shares. But there's no exchange.

I want to see an EvE equivalent of NASDAQ, but I have a feeling it could potentially make some hardware cry.