EVE General Discussion

So now salvage has nothing to do with missioning?

Salvaging has nothing to do with refining scrap.

And no, it doesn't particularly have anything to do with missions either — it has to do with extracting materials from wrecks, and wrecks can be created in a number of ways…

No. You get materials that are used as-is that you have collected in a PvP environment. Those materials can be extracted from any wreck you come across, so there's nothing that particularly connects it to missions.

If you're talking about refining loot, then… well… then we're talking about loot, not salvage.
If you're talking about scrap metals, then still no, because those are a huge waste of space and you toss them out the airlock.

Either way, salvaging has nothing to do with refining scrap or with mission-running, and refining itself has more to do with mining than anything else.

Hig-sec L4 payout is huge in a risk vs reward view. L4 had to be limited to low/null from the beginning. In the last years anyway they got nerfed several time, last one the FW LP store is a relevant indirect nerf to hig-sec L4.

Also focusing the misison reward more on LP helps, cause make the income variable and affected by the market; and this is good to keep them in line. Aka: more L4 grinding -> more LP items offer on the market -> lower income.

Hi sec missons have 2 major problems:

1. They are an infinite and player controlled resource spawn: there's no timer or competition for such resource, any player can spawn this resource freely and unlimited as they wish. The LP store system mitigate this some, but still is an issue and make dangerous to add something in term of rewards.

2. Do not produce chances for players interacions (and this is granted by HS cocnord mechanics). As already pointed out this hardly fit with a sandbox setting. This is a common missunderstanding: HS misisoners often claim their right to do their gameplay and not forced/affected by someone else gameplay; but, at the same time, they affect other players gameplay, indirectly, in terms of item delivered on the markets and so on.

I get what you guys are trying to say. Still an noob with mining and indi, can run a good L4 mission ship and not be comparable to a soley dedicated PVP pilot even in the course of 2 or more years of focus.

Separate from the PVP verse PVE issue... There were a couple good posts on topic. I am mostly curious to see if there will be any new ideas in the area of missioning. I guess given the direction of the posts there isn't much sunshine at the end of that tunnel. PVP is the general direction I guess folks are pushing for. Seems to make sence when the arguments for go the way these have gone. I hope to see more stuff on the actual PVE/Indi type of stuff and less on the PVP stuff for the future of the posts. I guess it's whatever it will be at this point.

I sure and honestly hope you'll enjoy all the increased PvP activity in your future.

Edit: accidentially a word

I posted on here with regards to finding out more information on missioning. Not to change my direction in the game. You started off offensive and have now gone so far as to threaten PVP. LOL...Have fun doing whatever you want. Obviously it's all about you You can't take a hint when someone tells you to **** off.

I'm not carrying my nose high at all. I just wanted to find out if there was a thought process on bringing more life into missioning. I had no intention of putting anyone down or picking a fight in the forums. I didn't want to go this direction at all. I'm no "Forum Warrior" . I'd much rather just discuss the missioning aspect more. I didn't jump on your thread and start anything. If picking on people for posting here is what you like to do.... All hail your massive epeen.

You don't understand her fully and reply in a way easily found offensive.

Try again. Tippia knows what she's talking about.

Thanks.