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Maggeridon Thoraz
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#1 - 2013-08-30 08:44:09 UTC
when do we get td effecting missiles as promised for 1.0 odyssey. once 1.0 odyssey hit the streets you , ccp , told us its delayed to get used to the missiles nerfs that came with it ? . I think with with 1.1 coming next week we have waited long enough and it much time has passed to get used to recent missile changes.
Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
#2 - 2013-08-30 08:49:49 UTC
Are missiles too powerful?

Oh god.
Sol Kal'orr
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2013-08-30 09:04:26 UTC
Patience is a virtue.
Fanatic Row
Neo T.E.C.H.
#4 - 2013-08-30 10:10:13 UTC
It's not coming; because it makes no sense.

Deal with it. It's not like missiles need the nerf anyway.
bloodknight2
Revenu.Quebec
#5 - 2013-08-30 11:10:05 UTC
Fanatic Row wrote:
It's not coming; because it makes no sense.

Deal with it. It's not like missiles need the nerf anyway.


It is not a nerf, but why tracking disruptor can make any turret ships useless and missile shouldn't be affected by this?
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#6 - 2013-08-30 11:16:08 UTC
bloodknight2 wrote:
It is not a nerf, but why tracking disruptor can make any turret ships useless and missile shouldn't be affected by this?

TDs are hardeners for speed tanking. Just like how your explo hardeners don't help against lasers, your turret hardeners don't help against missiles.
Thorn Galen
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse
The Curatores Veritatis Auxiliary
#7 - 2013-08-30 11:21:48 UTC
Tippia wrote:
bloodknight2 wrote:
It is not a nerf, but why tracking disruptor can make any turret ships useless and missile shouldn't be affected by this?

TDs are hardeners for speed tanking. Just like how your explo hardeners don't help against lasers, your turret hardeners don't help against missiles.


So true.

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War Kitten
Panda McLegion
#8 - 2013-08-30 16:01:35 UTC
Maggeridon Thoraz wrote:
when do we get td effecting missiles as promised for 1.0 odyssey.



Citation needed.

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Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#9 - 2013-08-30 16:05:41 UTC
Maggeridon Thoraz wrote:
when do we get td effecting missiles as promised for 1.0 odyssey. once 1.0 odyssey hit the streets you , ccp , told us its delayed to get used to the missiles nerfs that came with it ? . I think with with 1.1 coming next week we have waited long enough and it much time has passed to get used to recent missile changes.

Is it not enough for you that firing missiles at you and firing fireworks at you is virtually indistinguishable? (Actually, I think fireworks do more damage)
Missile DPS is {insert word that goes beyond "shocking" here}

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Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
#10 - 2013-08-30 16:53:49 UTC
Tippia wrote:
bloodknight2 wrote:
It is not a nerf, but why tracking disruptor can make any turret ships useless and missile shouldn't be affected by this?

TDs are hardeners for speed tanking. Just like how your explo hardeners don't help against lasers, your turret hardeners don't help against missiles.


I can make **** up and like it on my alts too.

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are serious business sir.

and don't forget it
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#11 - 2013-08-30 16:54:50 UTC
bloodknight2 wrote:
Fanatic Row wrote:
It's not coming; because it makes no sense.

Deal with it. It's not like missiles need the nerf anyway.


It is not a nerf, but why tracking disruptor can make any turret ships useless and missile shouldn't be affected by this?


Because you can't lock onto the missiles?

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Leigh Akiga
Kuhri Innovations
#12 - 2013-08-30 17:22:13 UTC
Nobody cares about missiles anymore
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#13 - 2013-08-30 17:28:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Tippia
Cipher Jones wrote:
I can make **** up and like it on my alts
That's pretty sad. Luckily, I don't have to do that.
Domanique Altares
Rifterlings
#14 - 2013-08-30 17:30:08 UTC
Maggeridon Thoraz wrote:
when do we get td effecting missiles as promised for 1.0 odyssey.


Never.

TDs and TEs/TCs are very likely never going to affect missiles.

There's a good chance, and I will let you ferret out the Dev reply in F&I stating this, that there may be similar modules released FOR missiles, but traditional turret buff/debuff mods are not going to affect missiles. I'm pretty sure they devs aren't interested in providing a second all-in-one EWAR solution.
Turelus
Utassi Security
#15 - 2013-08-30 17:30:19 UTC
Those interested in missile changes might be interested in this post made recently.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=3545236#post3545236

I'm personally still for keeping missile and turret EWAR systems separate as it promotes choice in fittings rather than one module (Tracking Disruptor) beats all. CCP would do better in looking at a rewroking of the defender missile system as something which works along the lines of what they wanted with TD than changing the TD itself.

Turelus CEO Utassi Security
Fanatic Row
Neo T.E.C.H.
#16 - 2013-08-30 17:43:51 UTC
bloodknight2 wrote:
Fanatic Row wrote:
It's not coming; because it makes no sense.

Deal with it. It's not like missiles need the nerf anyway.


It is not a nerf, but why tracking disruptor can make any turret ships useless and missile shouldn't be affected by this?
Because missiles aren't affected by tracking. Quite simple actually.

You can't align your ship to increase tracking and thus, damage, with missiles. They can be destroyed while en route to their target, and most importantly, they are delayed damage and half the missile hulls have to sacrifice bonuses for missile velocity, to get them to be worthwhile.

In short,; they have their strenghts and certainly their weaknesses. There is no need for CCP to make non-sensical changes to tracking to disruptors, to limit their use even more.
Domanique Altares
Rifterlings
#17 - 2013-08-30 17:43:52 UTC
Turelus wrote:
Those interested in missile changes might be interested in this post made recently.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=3545236#post3545236

I'm personally still for keeping missile and turret EWAR systems separate as it promotes choice in fittings rather than one module (Tracking Disruptor) beats all. CCP would do better in looking at a rewroking of the defender missile system as something which works along the lines of what they wanted with TD than changing the TD itself.



That's the reply I was talking about.

And I personally agree that I don't want TDs affecting missiles. Give me a different module that serves the same purpose, or at the least, a different set of scripts that force the TD user to choose between missile/turret debuffs the same way you have to select optimal or tracking disruption now. (And I would really rather a separate module.) I don't know how it is elsewhere, but lowsec and FW zones are already overflowing with TDs as it is; it doesn't need to be the end-all-be-all module for weapon disruption.
Jumpshot244
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#18 - 2013-08-30 17:50:33 UTC
Get rid of defender missiles. If you want some kind of module that affects missiles, just make chaff rockets and be done with it.
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#19 - 2013-08-30 19:49:33 UTC
For every person wanting TDs to effect missiles, there are 3 people STILL whining about the HML balance.

CCP needs time to reinforce the Forum Node before making anything else effect missiles, or else the forum would meltdown from the overwhelming amount of whine threads. In addition, the trolls need to bolster their numbers so they can be ready to troll all the beforementioned whine threads.



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