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Increase Impairor cargo hold to 120 m3
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Antoine Jordan
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2013-08-29 16:53:04 UTC
Liquid Ozone required to light a cyno with cyno4: 300
Volume of 1 unit liquid ozone: 0.4 m3

Volume required to light a cyno with cyno4: 120 m3

Velator cargo hold: 135 m3
Ibis cargo hold: 125 m3
Reaper cargo hold: 120 m3
Impairor cargo hold: 115 m3

CCP please fix this inequality.
Maximus Aerelius
PROPHET OF ENIGMA
#2 - 2013-08-29 17:04:54 UTC
Impairor Low Slots 2. Fixed for you.

HTH.

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Domanique Altares
Rifterlings
#3 - 2013-08-29 17:20:29 UTC
Antoine Jordan wrote:

CCP please fix this inequality.


Agreed.

CCP, please make all noobships equal by removing their ability to fit a cyno.
Antoine Jordan
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2013-08-29 17:36:40 UTC
Maximus Aerelius wrote:
Impairor Low Slots 2. Fixed for you.

HTH.

thanks for the post, but being the only rookie ship to require a cargo expander means it's not equal by definition.
Maximus Aerelius
PROPHET OF ENIGMA
#5 - 2013-08-29 17:48:53 UTC
Antoine Jordan wrote:
Maximus Aerelius wrote:
Impairor Low Slots 2. Fixed for you.

HTH.

thanks for the post, but being the only rookie ship to require a cargo expander means it's not equal by definition.


All ships were not created equal...take a Prowler versus other Blockade Runners: Prowler = 2 Hi-Slots, Others = 1. Prevents homogenisation of ships which is a good thing.

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Cheng Musana
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#6 - 2013-08-29 17:53:13 UTC
I have a better idea. Why dont we have cyno shuttles that have 95% reduction of liquid ozone and a inbuild cyno?
Zaxix
State War Academy
Caldari State
#7 - 2013-08-29 18:11:07 UTC
Run the numbers with cyno 5, does it fit? If so, then it's just a matter of training, not ship design.

Bokononist

 
Omnathious Deninard
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2013-08-29 18:12:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Omnathious Deninard
I have another idea, restrict cyno modules to recon ships.
Edit: and covert ops.

If you don't follow the rules, neither will I.
Antoine Jordan
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2013-08-29 18:40:50 UTC
Zaxix wrote:
Run the numbers with cyno 5, does it fit? If so, then it's just a matter of training, not ship design.

Thanks for the post. One race needing to train another level of a skill (20 days or more) means it's not equal by definition.
Katia Echerie
The Tuskers
The Tuskers Co.
#10 - 2013-08-29 19:01:24 UTC
No. Its fine as is. You can use other rookie ships if you want. Stop being so cheap and/or losing cynos.
Antoine Jordan
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2013-08-29 19:05:58 UTC
Katia Echerie wrote:
No. Its fine as is. You can use other rookie ships if you want. Stop being so cheap and/or losing cynos.

You can use them, but if you're Amarr, you can't create the others at will. It's dumb that this is only a factor for one race. Would increasing the Impairor's cargo hold by 5 m3 all of a sudden make it overpowered?
Maximus Aerelius
PROPHET OF ENIGMA
#12 - 2013-08-29 19:09:10 UTC
Antoine Jordan wrote:
Katia Echerie wrote:
No. Its fine as is. You can use other rookie ships if you want. Stop being so cheap and/or losing cynos.

You can use them, but if you're Amarr, you can't create the others at will. It's dumb that this is only a factor for one race. Would increasing the Impairor's cargo hold by 5 m3 all of a sudden make it overpowered?


According the the amount of whine and reason for this thread possibly Twisted

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Maximus Aerelius
PROPHET OF ENIGMA
#13 - 2013-08-29 19:11:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Maximus Aerelius
Zaxix wrote:
Run the numbers with cyno 5, does it fit? If so, then it's just a matter of training, not ship design.


Cynosural Field Theory:

"Skill at creating effective cynosural fields. 10% reduction in liquid ozone consumption for module activation per skill level. Can not be trained on Trial Accounts."

Consumption Quantity Bonus: -10%

Level 5 = -50%

EDIT: Prereq's: Electronics Level 5 but as you already have Cyno 4 you may as well go the whole hog with L5 and problem solved.

Or just grab a Rookie Ship from another race: Prereq's: Spaceship Command Level 1. Now we all have that right?

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Domanique Altares
Rifterlings
#14 - 2013-08-29 19:40:56 UTC
Antoine Jordan wrote:

You can use them, but if you're Amarr, you can't create the others at will.


Do you produce cyno modules at will from your arse? Because if not, then you also have the ability to procure a ship to fit it on.
Vrenth
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2013-08-30 23:24:36 UTC
Antoine Jordan wrote:
Liquid Ozone required to light a cyno with cyno4: 300
Volume of 1 unit liquid ozone: 0.4 m3

Volume required to light a cyno with cyno4: 120 m3

Velator cargo hold: 135 m3
Ibis cargo hold: 125 m3
Reaper cargo hold: 120 m3
Impairor cargo hold: 115 m3

CCP please fix this inequality.


Did you ever stop to consider that maybe free cyno ships were not CCPs intention for the noobships? Spend the 500k on a real frig hull or HTFU and train the skill. CCP won't change a thing here.
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#16 - 2013-08-31 00:49:46 UTC
Domanique Altares wrote:
Antoine Jordan wrote:

You can use them, but if you're Amarr, you can't create the others at will.


Do you produce cyno modules at will from your arse? Because if not, then you also have the ability to procure a ship to fit it on.



Or, better yet, for the price of one Cyno, you can buy 440 Expanded Cargohold I. Ships are a much bigger pain to move.

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Invisusira
Escalated.
OnlyFleets.
#17 - 2013-08-31 01:29:05 UTC
I am pretty sure that anywhere you can get a Cyno, you can get a Cargo Expander.

go back to (wow/chess/pick your homogonized game) etc

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ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
#18 - 2013-08-31 01:31:07 UTC
Stop being cheap and use an actual ship to cyno your billion+ capitals around.

Christ... the things that people complain about.

How did you Veterans start?