EVE General Discussion

The rise in numbers of "systems for rent" across null may help bring the price of same renting systems down. This "renting" thing may bring a lot of people into nulll sec again. Which is not a bad thing. This could even help some of the renters become systems owners themselves.

I don't feel that the individual is fully wrong for making choices for strictly economic reasons. I do feel that in aggregate, it is leading civilization on a path that I don't want to go down. The overlord that you are paying will use what you pay him to extinguish all resistance, and once he has done that . . . well, what happens when there is only 1 wolf in a world full of sheep? Given that you cannot fight for yourself, what is to stop him from raising the rent or reducing the benefits or just extinguishing you, too?

This is pretty much it. If your corp rents the only requirement is a tax at like 15-20%. And ofcourse it would be nice if you logged in every one in a while and actually made use of the space. But really there is no problems with dead weight as they like to call it. I

n a sov alliance you are expected to show up for ops, which is fair. But the ops themselves are rather dreadful activities, especially if you rather be doing something else. You are also expected to deploy to warzone far away, moving your own ships. And if you don't show up it's all fine and well too until you either get kicked from corp or your space gets taken etc. It very much feels like a second job.

Worst thing is they make you contaminate your skill tree with terrible things like being able to fly a drake. It's a horrible ship and everyone flying one deserves to be awoxed and podded.

Lots of people enjoy that kind of gameplay and good luck to them. I hope the isk I pay as rent gets them many good fights and what not. It's just not for everyone and I appreciate them making this arrangement for myself and likeminded.

It is fascinating to read all the people who were "nerf high sec in the name of risk vs return", are all now claiming "come to null sec and partake in the fountain of riches".

Guess they know their job is done and high sec income potential is soon to be hammered into the ground.

i see. exploring in NA territory for a couple of days and yesterday i found first (!!!) settled system with station and people logged in

yea, the best place to live is empty space (read "live" = "farm ISK")
yea, the best place to "PVP" is empty space (read "PVP" = "farm ISK")

i remember my time in deeps of Legion of Death space.... when i haven't see neutral face for days. PvP? yes, people used to travel 20+ jumps into LXQ or other "pvp" systems to do any pvp....

Again: people pay rent to farm ISK in safety of deep 0.0 space where chance to meet any danger is almost zero.

And it has always been that way.
The risk of living in deep null sec, behind a huge blue wall, is indeed near zero.
But that does not stop the null sec cartels from wanting high sec crushed.

If the high sec income streams are extinguished, that means the null sec income streams represent a bigger piece of the economic pie. And since the cartel leaders are getting a cut of all that income, that means that the cartel leaders are simply expanding their relative wealth spread to the rest of the player base.

When individual players in the game measure their wealth by the trillions, and their monthly personal income by the hundreds of billions, you really have to wonder what they do with that money. At least, some wonder. The obvious answer is the one that shall not be named.

Since I've come back to hi sec I've suffered from null withdrawal. I jump into a system and see all those neutrals and get scared, then I realize that magical space police will appear to punish any and all who try to slay me (blessed by my buffer tank).

I find myself in a mission feeling like something is wrong. I look to where I used to have local chat by reflex, but it's not even there, it's minimized.

I go to answer the door and have to fight the urge to run back to my computer "because I forgot to dock"....because I don't have to worry about such things now

And all the time I'm sitting there saying to myself "yep, those high sec guys were right, null is much safer"

OK, so think of it like this:

You are a poor farmer. A peasant without any land. You graze your cattle on overworked common land along with all the other peasants. You have no space to grow crops. You cattle are unhealthy and small, you can't make money from the milk, they're too small to slaughter and the hides are worthless. Occasionally the other peasants using the common land kick you off. Your children are malnourished, you eat turnips - every day - and your wife thinks you are a disappointment. Your house is also quite terrible - you have to share it with hundreds of other peasants. You have to survive on 1 groat a month.

A wealthy landowner with a private army turns up and says that you can come and work on his land and all you have to do is pay him a tithe. Its 10 groats a month. 10 groats is allot but when you think about it you'll have some prime land all of your own, your cattle will graze and be healthy, there is enough land to grow crops. After you do the math, you realise that you'll be making 100 groats a month easily. In fact you'll have to take on staff to make the land make the most money. You'll not only get a spanking new space castle home but you can build country estates, the land owner will make sure your land is irrigated at no additional cost, he'll even send his standing army in to protect you should the revolting peasants turn up. That army will never set foot on your land unless its to protect it and they certainly can't farm on it. Its punishable by death. The children get new toys, the wife is happy and you'll never have to see another turnip again.

You take the landowner up on his offer and after a while you're stinking rich with none of the responsibility of actually maintaining the estate you live on (ok, the country estates need firewood). The peasants you left behind shout "renter" at you, which really means nothing as you look down on them from your golden carriage, dressed in your finest clothes. You even shoot one for the fun of it.

I'm serious, I laughed so hard reading the end of this. The imagery is magical :) .

Sign me up to rent from you evil mother ****** s!