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Energy bar on target
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Falrec
Dremor Engineering inc.
#1 - 2011-11-13 12:07:15 UTC
The idea is simple: add a fourth bar on the targets. This bar represents the capacitor of the target, making it possible to see the remaining power level of the target.

This addition would be particularly useful for:
- The ship using neut as E-WAR, which could see if the opponent is truly disabled.
- The logistics "cap-chain" (Guardian / Basi), to see if the capacitor is the target of their back (and thus avoid cycles for nothing)

This bar to be placed below the bar hull, which would bar the same yellow-orange as the capacitor of our own ship.

(Sorry for possible mistakes, I am French, still in high school, so I use goggle trad to translate from French.)

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L'idée est simple: ajouter un quatrième barre sur les cibles. Cette barre représenterait le capacitor de la cible, rendant ainsi possible de voir le niveau d'énergie restant de la cible.

Cette ajout serait particulièrement utile pour:
- Les ship utilisant neut comme E-WAR, qui pourrait voir si l'adversaire est véritablement incapacité.
- Les logistiques "cap-chain" (Guardian/Basi), pour voir si le capacitor de leurs cible est bien remonté (et ainsi, éviter de cycler pour rien)

Cette barre pourait être placé en dessous de la barre de hull, barre qui serait du même jaune-orange que le capacitor de notre propre ship.
Robert Caldera
Caldera Trading and Investment
#2 - 2011-11-13 12:16:33 UTC
totally novel idea
Daedalus Arcova
The Scope
#3 - 2011-11-13 13:20:36 UTC
I'm not convinced by this. Providing capacitor information on locked targets would basically be a buff to neuts, which don't need any buffs.

The only place where automatically sharing cap info would be appropriate would be the watchlist.

Otherwise, if you want to see the capacitor of a target, you can use a ship scanner. If the guy is in your fleet, then you can ask him to tell you when he's cap full.
Falrec
Dremor Engineering inc.
#4 - 2011-11-13 16:18:07 UTC
Daedalus Arcova wrote:
I'm not convinced by this. Providing capacitor information on locked targets would basically be a buff to neuts, which don't need any buffs.

The only place where automatically sharing cap info would be appropriate would be the watchlist.

Otherwise, if you want to see the capacitor of a target, you can use a ship scanner. If the guy is in your fleet, then you can ask him to tell you when he's cap full.



>A buff? where? The neut will always neutralize the same amount of energy, the only difference is that we can see the effectiveness in real time, much like ECM.

>And what use is knowing that a pilot has in his logistic WL: other logistics (which are always remote, or are stable), the command ship (which are always stable), and FC (which are almost always in command ship)

>Do you think a combat ship, especially a logistic, have room for a ship scanner?
taintedms
ArB Llc.
#5 - 2011-11-15 00:26:24 UTC
Falrec wrote:
Daedalus Arcova wrote:
I'm not convinced by this. Providing capacitor information on locked targets would basically be a buff to neuts, which don't need any buffs.

The only place where automatically sharing cap info would be appropriate would be the watchlist.

Otherwise, if you want to see the capacitor of a target, you can use a ship scanner. If the guy is in your fleet, then you can ask him to tell you when he's cap full.



>A buff? where? The neut will always neutralize the same amount of energy, the only difference is that we can see the effectiveness in real time, much like ECM.

>And what use is knowing that a pilot has in his logistic WL: other logistics (which are always remote, or are stable), the command ship (which are always stable), and FC (which are almost always in command ship)

>Do you think a combat ship, especially a logistic, have room for a ship scanner?


The buff is that the neut knows when to stop, logi's do not always have room for a scanner, which brings in the need for a consistent cap chain. At some point CCP cant just give everything away, as they do with the shield, armor, and hull indicators on your target.

However i do support the idea of having it in the watch list - although taking a bit of strategy from a logistics pilot, i think still reasonable - perhaps the cap bar is only visible to someone in a logi role ship?