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Proposal: Hi sec ganking and alt looting your items. Class action law suit. Any one interested

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Kriss Wolf
Starwind Operations and Logistics
#1 - 2013-08-28 00:49:39 UTC
Hi sec ganking is acceptable because you get kill rights.

However an alt, corpmate or anyone else can loot your items and steal millions of ISK worth of your hard earned items.

This violates many international laws concerning gambling. You can not have an unfair risk of real world money in game loop holes designed to harm your chances of fair play.


CCP profits from every hi sec gank. It takes an average of two to three months for the casual player to recover the lost items. That is a lost of real world money because you have to gain those items again.

CCP, by their game design loophole, allows others to take your real world money, via, stolen in game items, thereby extending your play time which cost you more real world money.


CCP need to modify their broken rules to allow either:

A: No one to loot your items but the person who ganked you

B: Give you kill rights on who ever loots your items

C: Offer full value insurance to replace what is lost.


I have already contacted CCP legal for all their corporate information so I can ask the attorney generals (or that contries equiivelent) to file the appropriate laws suits on behalf of EveOnline players.

If 5000 loses 1 months worth of Real world money because of the game play mechanics, that's a total of $50,000.00 US dollars in come that CCP gets because of its unfair game play mechanics.

Now how do you feel about ninja looting and ganking in hisec?
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
#2 - 2013-08-28 02:44:23 UTC
Kriss Wolf wrote:
I have already contacted CCP legal for all their corporate information so I can ask the attorney generals (or that contries equiivelent) to file the appropriate laws suits on behalf of EveOnline players.

Lol Good luuuuuuuuuuck.
Cade Windstalker
#3 - 2013-08-28 03:48:11 UTC
Kriss Wolf wrote:
However an alt, corpmate or anyone else can loot your items and steal millions of ISK worth of your hard earned items.


Not without going Suspect and risking death themselves if anyone around happens to be paying attention.

Kriss Wolf wrote:
This violates many international laws concerning gambling. You can not have an unfair risk of real world money in game loop holes designed to harm your chances of fair play.


Except that ISK is not real-world money, you can't take it out of the game, and Eve is not licensed or regulated as a gambling institution. Thus no law, gambling related or otherwise, has been violated.

Kriss Wolf wrote:
CCP profits from every hi sec gank. It takes an average of two to three months for the casual player to recover the lost items. That is a lost of real world money because you have to gain those items again.


Then don't haul 2-3 months of loot in one industrial or freighter. CCP only profits if someone buys PLEX from CCP to recoup those loses. Most people don't therefore this argument is erroneous.

Kriss Wolf wrote:
CCP, by their game design loophole, allows others to take your real world money, via, stolen in game items, thereby extending your play time which cost you more real world money.

CCP need to modify their broken rules to allow either:

A: No one to loot your items but the person who ganked you

B: Give you kill rights on who ever loots your items

C: Offer full value insurance to replace what is lost.


I have already contacted CCP legal for all their corporate information so I can ask the attorney generals (or that contries equiivelent) to file the appropriate laws suits on behalf of EveOnline players.

If 5000 loses 1 months worth of Real world money because of the game play mechanics, that's a total of $50,000.00 US dollars in come that CCP gets because of its unfair game play mechanics.

Now how do you feel about ninja looting and ganking in hisec?


Again, ISK is not real-world money. If you buy "Golden Ammo" in another game you don't get to sue every time you miss a shot with it because it has no real world value, you paid the game company for in-game currency which you can then spend as you like.

In the case of Eve Online you buy PLEX (which is game-time) and can sell this game-time to other players for in-game currency. Since you can not then take this in-game currency and turn it into real-world money and the game mechanics are clearly laid out for you (in various places) you have no standing to sue.

Also this is probably covered in the EULA.
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#4 - 2013-08-28 06:58:08 UTC
Thanks for wasting CCP's time and money - that could be better spent on almost anything else - because you can't accept that you're not immune to ship loss.

I trust you will also sue the organisers of the next game of football that you play for permitting and encouraging assault and robbery against you?

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016

Sephira Galamore
Inner Beard Society
Kvitravn.
#5 - 2013-08-28 10:06:40 UTC
I refuse to take that seriously.
TheGunslinger42
All Web Investigations
#6 - 2013-08-28 10:44:38 UTC
Not sure if troll thread or someone not heeding robert downey jrs advice in tropic thunder
Baaldor
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#7 - 2013-08-28 10:53:43 UTC
Kriss Wolf wrote:
Hi sec ganking is acceptable because you get kill rights.

However an alt, corpmate or anyone else can loot your items and steal millions of ISK worth of your hard earned items.

This violates many international laws concerning gambling. You can not have an unfair risk of real world money in game loop holes designed to harm your chances of fair play.


CCP profits from every hi sec gank. It takes an average of two to three months for the casual player to recover the lost items. That is a lost of real world money because you have to gain those items again.

CCP, by their game design loophole, allows others to take your real world money, via, stolen in game items, thereby extending your play time which cost you more real world money.


CCP need to modify their broken rules to allow either:

A: No one to loot your items but the person who ganked you

B: Give you kill rights on who ever loots your items

C: Offer full value insurance to replace what is lost.


I have already contacted CCP legal for all their corporate information so I can ask the attorney generals (or that contries equiivelent) to file the appropriate laws suits on behalf of EveOnline players.

If 5000 loses 1 months worth of Real world money because of the game play mechanics, that's a total of $50,000.00 US dollars in come that CCP gets because of its unfair game play mechanics.

Now how do you feel about ninja looting and ganking in hisec?


BAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA!!!!
CCP Eterne
C C P
C C P Alliance
#8 - 2013-08-28 11:19:07 UTC
I am locking this for either being an elaborate troll or for discussing legal action against CCP, in which case this should not be handled on the forums.

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