EVE General Discussion

Nullsec is held by large monolithic alliances whose overlords pocket all the lucrative wealth while leaving the rest of the faceless puppets with scraps.

"Why should I spend my money and time, serving some overlords?"

This is probably one of the biggest reasons why many don't want to go to null, why should I spend my money and my free time working another job for another boss.

Nullsec is for delusional fools who are tricked by tales of grandeur fed to them over nullsec overlords who want more slaves and underlings fighting for them. Moon mining is a very profitable venture along with Real Money Trade. Nullsec alliances and coalitions ensure smooth operations and maximum profit. This is pocketed by the upper echelon and the bottom sees nothing.

"What's in it for me?"

To be honest, there is really nothing nullsec offers you over anywhere else if you a simple underling. Those who make profit are only a handful and the rest are expected to look out for themselves. Fleet fights are boring and lagtastic. Its as fun as watching paint dry. There is no skills or tactics, just simply mindless blobbing.

Nullsec leaves you as a faceless grunt with fairly little to gain.

I have been in nullsec many times, each experience leaving me with disappointment and dissatisfaction.

Nullsec makes the game feel like another job, and this is a game which one should be able to enjoy with friends and companions, not bosses and drones.

As long as you have nullsec overlords and massive alliances, nullsec will stay as it is.

Uhh... Yes, blue... Eh, true.

Null Sec has not much to offer these days.
Times change, they always do. They would change faster if CCP would not cater to Null Sec current dweller needs all the time.

I think even CCP imagined something different for Null Sec.

But well, soon-ish we probably get the heroic Null Sec vs High Sec war.

the answer is quite simple.

testicle transplants.

Oh look its another highsec pubbie who thinks they have nullsec all figured out.

But nevermind me, im just some poor mindless slave (who makes plenty of isk to pay for shiny ships that get blown up in pvp) to some evil nullsec overlord (and hey my alliance even reimburses ships I lose on alliance fleets, free pvp) who just RMTs all our hard earned isk (if our alliance CEO RMTs all of our isk how do we run our ship replacement program, keep our poses and JBs fueled, or even pay our sov bills?).

Have yet to be in a boring fleet fight (other than when we get blueballed), and insane lagfests died with the NC.

I live in nullsec because highsec bores me to tears, EVE PvE is mind numbingly boring, PvP is the only real fun thing to do in this game.

Only against Chibba

Simple: blue high sec NPC corps

Shooting blues is a form of PvP

OMG you should have attacked the Delve Police. Every single time those crazy sons of bitches undock, awesome happens. Also, that thanatos was doing something very important!

If your alliance isn't stupid, the OP is completely incorrect.

There seems to be a lot of misconceptions about alliances in nullsec. I am going to address them in a somewhat organized manner.

1. Nullsec alliances require you to join certain fleets/dictate to you how to play the game.

False. My alliance has no CTAs. I can do whatever the **** I want to out here. I mine, I fly a bomber, I do market trading, and I manufacture stuff. While we do have fleet doctrines, you are not forced to fly ships within the doctrine. We try to encourage our pilots to follow the doctrine by reimbursing doctrine ships lost in an engagement (as a coherent fleet doctrine is really important in large scale PvP). I have seen people show up to fleets in anything from a blaster rokh to a battle rorqual. We give no fucks.

2. Alliance leaders pocket all the ISK from moongoo, while the "slaves" do their bidding.

False. It has been proven that alliances that don't give their moongoo ISK to their memberbase fail, spectacularly. (Remember OWN?) My alliance's finances are completely open, and can be reviewed by anyone. Most of my alliance's income goes toward reimbursement of members ships and sov bills.

3. Fleet fights are boring, lagtastic, and require no skill or tactics.

Mostly false. Good FCs are worth their weight in gold out here. Large scale fleet engagement tactics and overarching strategy are much more complicated than small scale PvP, requiring the coordination of hundreds of players, advanced knowledge of the game mechanics, and the charisma to settle disputes and herd your legion of cats into the enemy. Fleet fights are a huge adrenaline rush, the teamwork, the comms, the porn linked in fleet chat, all of it leads to a pretty fun experience. Unless you are on a structure shoot. Then you play World of Tanks/Transformice/League of Legends with your fleet mates while your ship unloads for an hour or two on a tower. Lagtastic is generally true, but you get used to it, and learn to fight with it. The time dilation stuff coming should help with that.

TL;DR OP is a idiot who knows nothing of nullsec, and good alliances.

I wasn't aware I was speaking for you. I was pointing out that limited experience with nullsec does not represent all of nullsec.

My time obligations to my alliance are zero. I log in when I want to, to do what I want to. Sorry that you were in a terriblealliance. =)