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What's the best way to limp home?

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Sir Jack Falstaff
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2013-08-26 20:03:49 UTC
So. Hypothetical. Imagine you lost your ship but escaped being podded in faction warfare. You're in lo-sec and none of the stations within 5 jumps or so has a frigate or destroyer you can fly for sale. Do you use the noobship, shuttle, or capsule?

I chose the noobship and this turned out to be a fatal miscalculation. I got tackled and podded in a gatecamp on the way back to my stuff. On the plus side, I got teleported instantly back to my stuff, but I tasted the bitter tea of Eve humiliation once again.

What should I have done?

Banish plump Jack, and banish all the world.

Kahega Amielden
Rifterlings
#2 - 2013-08-26 20:27:31 UTC
Sir Jack Falstaff wrote:
So. Hypothetical. Imagine you lost your ship but escaped being podded in faction warfare. You're in lo-sec and none of the stations within 5 jumps or so has a frigate or destroyer you can fly for sale. Do you use the noobship, shuttle, or capsule?

I chose the noobship and this turned out to be a fatal miscalculation. I got tackled and podded in a gatecamp on the way back to my stuff. On the plus side, I got teleported instantly back to my stuff, but I tasted the bitter tea of Eve humiliation once again.

What should I have done?


if you find yourself pointed, you can just start spamming the warp button and your pod will instawarp after you explode. Then again, in a noobship you probably died instantly.

Capsules align instantly - it is literally impossible to catch a capsule that is going from gate cloak to warp. Shuttles don't quite warp instantly but it's so fast that I've never seen one get pointed coming off a gate. Shuttles have the advantage of warping at 6 AU/S rather than 3, so in general I prefer shuttles.


One think to be aware of is smartbomb camps. These are not very common at all for a number of reasons, but in certain high-traffic systems they do occasionally pop up. What will happen is that someone will fit up a BS with a bunch of smartbombs and position themselves near a gate people want to warp to in the direction of another gate. When someone comes to the gate they are camping, the camper will hit his smartbombs. This is one of the only ways you can be killed before you've even exited warp. Most ships will have the tank to withstand this and jump through anyway, but a shuttle, pod or noobship will not.

If I anticipate having to deal with this, I will either set up tacticals (BMs >150km away from the gate in question) and warp to them first, or use directional scan on the gate I'm warping to.
Donbe Scurred
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2013-08-26 20:33:14 UTC
Were you auto-piloting? If so, don't do that.

If you don't have the convenience of a shuttle, noobship will work, just always pay attention.

In the rare occasion that you do get popped in your noobship, you should already be aligned to GTFO and just start spamming the warp button.

Pods instawarp so as soon as you realize your ship is about to pop, start spamming warp.

You don't seem to be using any implants and your skill points are pretty low, so another option is to just self-destruct for a quick trip home.

Don't forget to update your clone.
Drax Concrilla
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#4 - 2013-08-26 20:34:46 UTC
Pretty much exactly what Kahega said. I generally would hop into a newb ship due to it being free and readily accessible but sometimes would just pod home if it was through low traffic systems.
Sir Jack Falstaff
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2013-08-26 20:50:44 UTC
I was certainly *not* autopiloting. (Give me that much credit at least) Coming off a gate I was instantly tackled by a T2 Jaguar as soon as I started to align/decloak to the next gate. I guess I should be glad I was only in a noobship because that thing would have annihilated any ship I currently own.

But had I been in a capsule, would I have been able to align/warp fast enough to avoid the tackle?

Banish plump Jack, and banish all the world.

Kahega Amielden
Rifterlings
#6 - 2013-08-26 20:55:19 UTC
Yes. Noobships are about average as far as agility goes compared to other frigates, whereas shuttles are much faster and pods are virtually instant.
Ned Taggart
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2013-08-27 14:15:58 UTC
I use a noob ship because it is free. I do not bother with aligning then warping. I'll plot the route home, select the yellow gate from my overview and spam "D". That will warp to and jump/dock/activate. I have never been locked this way and I have blown through some pretty camped gates.

I know eventually, I will be caught, but I haven't as of yet.

Also, this only works in High or Lowsec. In Null sec, I do it a bit differently, to avoid bubbles.
Sir Jack Falstaff
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2013-08-27 14:47:41 UTC
Ned Taggart wrote:
I use a noob ship because it is free. I do not bother with aligning then warping. I'll plot the route home, select the yellow gate from my overview and spam "D". That will warp to and jump/dock/activate. I have never been locked this way and I have blown through some pretty camped gates.

Until yesterday, I could have written this exact quote verbatim. A harsh lesson learned.

With all respect to E-Uni (my main is a student there and I love it), we're currently at war with a 6 person corp, I've flown all over the place without even seeing a WT in local. Faction Warfare is a different situation entirely, especially when traveling through the losec systems you need to plex, etc. There are WTs all over the place and their sole purpose in life is to see your lifeless body floating naked in space.

I'll be following Kehega's advice in emergencies from now on.

Banish plump Jack, and banish all the world.

Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#9 - 2013-08-27 15:21:37 UTC
You can pretty much use anything to fly about. If yo uget caught though, as other have said, warp your pod of as soon as you explode. Generally i wouldn't travel in just my pod however. By having a noobship or a shuttle, it means it takes a minimum of 2 shots and 2 sets of targeting to kill you (except when you get smartbombed into oblivion, that can happen pretty quick regardless).

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Onyx Asablot
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2013-08-27 15:37:39 UTC
Sir Jack Falstaff wrote:
So. Hypothetical. Imagine you lost your ship but escaped being podded in faction warfare. You're in lo-sec and none of the stations within 5 jumps or so has a frigate or destroyer you can fly for sale. Do you use the noobship, shuttle, or capsule?

I chose the noobship and this turned out to be a fatal miscalculation. I got tackled and podded in a gatecamp on the way back to my stuff. On the plus side, I got teleported instantly back to my stuff, but I tasted the bitter tea of Eve humiliation once again.

What should I have done?




Welp you first need to find some friends to fly with (a corp of course) and then get your skills up to where you can either get through the gate camps with ease, or you and your friends can blap the gate camp yourselves.


Just a suggestion...Eve is "funner" with friends.


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Onyx Asablot
Legion of Patriots
CEO

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Robby Altair
#11 - 2013-08-27 17:53:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Robby Altair
Simply change your pod name to FAILURE, and pod your way back home. Roll

Always name your pod. Looks better on the kill mail. Smile

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Ned Taggart
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2013-08-27 18:49:10 UTC
Sir Jack Falstaff wrote:
Ned Taggart wrote:
I use a noob ship because it is free. I do not bother with aligning then warping. I'll plot the route home, select the yellow gate from my overview and spam "D". That will warp to and jump/dock/activate. I have never been locked this way and I have blown through some pretty camped gates.

Until yesterday, I could have written this exact quote verbatim. A harsh lesson learned.

With all respect to E-Uni (my main is a student there and I love it), we're currently at war with a 6 person corp, I've flown all over the place without even seeing a WT in local. Faction Warfare is a different situation entirely, especially when traveling through the losec systems you need to plex, etc. There are WTs all over the place and their sole purpose in life is to see your lifeless body floating naked in space.

I'll be following Kehega's advice in emergencies from now on.


I'm not sure what our current war situation is all about, it seems laughable, but anyway, that is neither here nor there. While pods are almost instant aligning, they can get caught, especially at gate camps. Any ship will give you some form of buffer from being podded. I agree with either a shuttle or a newb ship. I can't really agree with riding your pod out, when a quick dock up will make you safer.
Ottersmacker
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
#13 - 2013-08-27 19:20:02 UTC
buffer is good, but noobship is slowish = get a shuttle if available in system, otherwise non-autopilot pod (and if possible, take measures against landing 1m out of the jump/dock range and getting volleyed).

i just locked an open door.. strange, yet symbolically compelling.

Celeste Taylor
Ruby Dynasty
#14 - 2013-08-27 20:43:27 UTC
If I understand correctly there really is no advantage in traveling in a pod. Shuttles are relatively inexpensive and you can resell them at your destination.
Malcolm Shinhwa
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2013-08-28 00:30:08 UTC
If in eve uni, why not setup your overview like they spell out on the website and use the POD Save tab? They have directions on saving your pod on that page.

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Skurja Volpar
Rattini Tribe
Minmatar Fleet Alliance
#16 - 2013-08-28 10:35:37 UTC
Malcolm Shinhwa wrote:
If in eve uni, why not setup your overview like they spell out on the website and use the POD Save tab? They have directions on saving your pod on that page.


This, just spam align/warp at a random celestial as soon as you know its over, and your pod should be in warp before they do anything.

But OT, shuttle or noobship should be fine, anything fast that provides an extra layer between pod and angry men in space.
Torrema Sinclair
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#17 - 2013-08-28 18:39:30 UTC
Sir Jack Falstaff wrote:
So. Hypothetical. Imagine you lost your ship but escaped being podded in faction warfare. You're in lo-sec and none of the stations within 5 jumps or so has a frigate or destroyer you can fly for sale. Do you use the noobship, shuttle, or capsule?

I chose the noobship and this turned out to be a fatal miscalculation. I got tackled and podded in a gatecamp on the way back to my stuff. On the plus side, I got teleported instantly back to my stuff, but I tasted the bitter tea of Eve humiliation once again.

What should I have done?



You should pod travel.... if you feel Lucky that is, or your pod is clean. Instant Warp, so noone can catch you. All though there are those pesky smartbombers around.

The thing is to put the smartbombers on a watchlist, so you know when not to travel in a pod:)