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Gamescom has come and gone. Where is the winter expansion announcement?

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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#61 - 2013-08-27 14:11:16 UTC
Elastoman wrote:
Sure 3 months in enough time to make another useless expansion like Odyssey.



It wasn't bad. Just not an Expansion. Just a collection of altered mechanics.

It's an Alteration.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Stitcher
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#62 - 2013-08-27 14:17:56 UTC
Elastoman wrote:
Sure 3 months in enough time to make another useless expansion like Odyssey.


Some of us like Odyssey very much. It's not CCP's fault your play style doesn't include the features they worked on this time around.

AKA Hambone

Author of The Deathworlders
Prince Kobol
#63 - 2013-08-27 14:19:22 UTC
Stitcher wrote:
Elastoman wrote:
Sure 3 months in enough time to make another useless expansion like Odyssey.


Some of us like Odyssey very much. It's not CCP's fault your play style doesn't include the features they worked on this time around.


Which style would that be.. logging on?
Bagrat Skalski
Koinuun Kotei
#64 - 2013-08-27 14:27:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Bagrat Skalski
Optimo Sebiestor
The New Eden School of trade
Organization of Skill Extracting Corporations
#65 - 2013-08-27 15:09:32 UTC
Who needs an expansion anyway?
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#66 - 2013-08-27 15:29:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Ranger 1
I don't think that completely reworking existing mechanics to make them more entertaining can be dismissed as not being an expansion. If you revamp a major game component, that is an expansion of the game.

Now if you believe an expansion must contain new territory and completely new features never seen before in any form, yes, you are probably disappointed that we have no previously unknown solar systems full of space panda's now.

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Stitcher
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#67 - 2013-08-27 15:56:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Stitcher
Prince Kobol wrote:
Stitcher wrote:
Some of us like Odyssey very much. It's not CCP's fault your play style doesn't include the features they worked on this time around.


Which style would that be.. logging on?



You know, a while back one of the contributing factors that led to Burn Jita was general playerbase dissatisfaction with CCP's focus on big "NEW FEATURES!!!1!" expansions rather than on polishing the existing features.

If you're a lowsec explorer, POS-based industrialist and ice miner, Odyssey polised your experience up a fair old bit.

I quite agree that I prefer the big features, but the fact is that I am a lowsec explorer, POS-based industrialist and ice miner, and there's nothing about odyssey that I can reasonably object to and much about Odyssey that I thoroughly like.

Sometimes expansions come along that don't cater to everyone. look at the sov warfare mechanics - I got my alliance sov warfare experience out of the way a long time ago. Not involved, not interested, nothing in that expension really had that much of an effect on me. I don't feel it's fair to object because it did have an effect on thousands of other players.

Don't complain about an expansion just because you didn't benefit from it, please. It's petty and short-sighted.

AKA Hambone

Author of The Deathworlders
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#68 - 2013-08-27 16:20:33 UTC
CCP Guard wrote:
Announcing at Gamescom wasn't timely so it will happen at another point in time ;).

It's still more than three months out so we still have some time.



Wait, its that soon till Christmas already?
Feer Truelight
#69 - 2013-08-27 16:26:43 UTC
Is it Soon™ or Very Soon™ ?

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Elastoman
Perkone
Caldari State
#70 - 2013-08-27 16:30:33 UTC
Stitcher wrote:
Some of us like Odyssey very much. It's not CCP's fault your play style doesn't include the features they worked on this time around.

Actually exploration is my primary income source. And not a single thing in Odyssey really changed anything for me.

The main problem about Odyssey is that it didn't address any really important issues except moon materials (which had to be done like 2 years ago tbh) and ship balance (which is a separate thing). Yes, exploration is broken, but there are much more broken things. Like force projection. But CCP went for easier problem and still didn't manage to rethink 'exploration' to make it feel like exploration. They made only cosmetic changes instead of fundamental overhaul.

CCP wasted half a year while the game is stagnating and less and less exciting things happen in EVE. PvE and mining is still boring, PvP is getting harder to find, blobbing is the only effective tactic in sov warfare. Only fundamental changes can solve this and sadly 3 months are definitely not enough.
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#71 - 2013-08-27 16:31:54 UTC
Stitcher wrote:


You know, a while back one of the contributing factors that led to Burn Jita was general playerbase dissatisfaction with CCP's focus on big "NEW FEATURES!!!1!" expansions rather than on polishing the existing features.



erm......No.

The kerfluffle was a FULL Expansion was promised, and upon release day only one racial CQ was available. The rusty Minmatar Hell.

And the Door would not open.

It was only a prototype.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Maximus Andendare
Stimulus
Rote Kapelle
#72 - 2013-08-27 16:55:45 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Stitcher wrote:


You know, a while back one of the contributing factors that led to Burn Jita was general playerbase dissatisfaction with CCP's focus on big "NEW FEATURES!!!1!" expansions rather than on polishing the existing features.



erm......No.

The kerfluffle was a FULL Expansion was promised, and upon release day only one racial CQ was available. The rusty Minmatar Hell.

And the Door would not open.

It was only a prototype.
Wow it was just the one CQ? I missed Incarna. By the time I came back from Tyrannis to Inferno, I had 4 CQs and ship spinning (back--well, to me it always was).

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Prince Kobol
#73 - 2013-08-27 17:01:00 UTC
Ranger 1 wrote:
I don't think that completely reworking existing mechanics to make them more entertaining can be dismissed as not being an expansion. If you revamp a major game component, that is an expansion of the game.

Now if you believe an expansion must contain new territory and completely new features never seen before in any form, yes, you are probably disappointed that we have no previously unknown solar systems full of space panda's now.



Yes reworking mechanics is nice, but then so is something new.


A balance between the two would be nice but what was the last new thing we had that made a difference?
Mystical Might
Eclipse Pulsar
Fraternity.
#74 - 2013-08-27 17:34:46 UTC
oldbutfeelingyoung wrote:
oldbutfeelingyoung wrote:
CCP Falcon wrote:

Soon™





yeah right !!!!!!!!



i mean ,CCP suddenly comes up with a new OR arcade shooter ,getting it hyped ,so people forget about EvE expansions.
and the only thing they can come up with is the old Soon™


I don't always quote myself...
Mystical Might
Eclipse Pulsar
Fraternity.
#75 - 2013-08-27 17:35:03 UTC
Mystical Might wrote:
oldbutfeelingyoung wrote:
oldbutfeelingyoung wrote:
CCP Falcon wrote:

Soon™





yeah right !!!!!!!!



i mean ,CCP suddenly comes up with a new OR arcade shooter ,getting it hyped ,so people forget about EvE expansions.
and the only thing they can come up with is the old Soon™


I don't always quote myself...


... But when I do...
Mystical Might
Eclipse Pulsar
Fraternity.
#76 - 2013-08-27 17:35:20 UTC
Mystical Might wrote:
Mystical Might wrote:
oldbutfeelingyoung wrote:
oldbutfeelingyoung wrote:
CCP Falcon wrote:

Soon™





yeah right !!!!!!!!



i mean ,CCP suddenly comes up with a new OR arcade shooter ,getting it hyped ,so people forget about EvE expansions.
and the only thing they can come up with is the old Soon™


I don't always quote myself...


... But when I do...


... I don't add any content.
Varesk
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#77 - 2013-08-27 17:48:07 UTC
CCP Guard wrote:
Announcing at Gamescom wasn't timely so it will happen at another point in time ;).

It's still more than three months out so we still have some time.





sorry, but your "expansions" are not expanding anything except socket closed errors and multiple patches after you release the "big patch expansion".
Stitcher
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#78 - 2013-08-27 18:04:52 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Stitcher wrote:


You know, a while back one of the contributing factors that led to Burn Jita was general playerbase dissatisfaction with CCP's focus on big "NEW FEATURES!!!1!" expansions rather than on polishing the existing features.



erm......No.

The kerfluffle was a FULL Expansion was promised, and upon release day only one racial CQ was available. The rusty Minmatar Hell.

And the Door would not open.

It was only a prototype.


I did say "ONE of the contributing factors"

The single CQ room with the stuck door, the "greed is good" newsletter leak and the $1000 jeans comment were others. It wasn't just one thing.

AKA Hambone

Author of The Deathworlders
Azami Nevinyrall
172.0.0.1
#79 - 2013-08-27 18:10:13 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Stitcher wrote:


You know, a while back one of the contributing factors that led to Burn Jita was general playerbase dissatisfaction with CCP's focus on big "NEW FEATURES!!!1!" expansions rather than on polishing the existing features.



erm......No.

The kerfluffle was a FULL Expansion was promised, and upon release day only one racial CQ was available. The rusty Minmatar Hell.

And the Door would not open.

It was only a prototype.

I believe Micro transactions was a major part in it too...

Must not forget the "Greed is Good" leak!

...
Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
#80 - 2013-08-27 19:11:35 UTC
Prince Kobol wrote:
Elastoman wrote:
Sure 3 months in enough time to make another useless expansion like Odyssey.


Hey, it wasn't useless.. they did stuff Big smile


Was neither an expansion nor useless.

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