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Dominix navy issue build 2

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Bendak Starcrusher
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2013-08-26 21:47:49 UTC
H: drone control link x6
M: drone navigation X6
L: drone damage x 1
L: drone tracking x1
L: resistance plates x4
L: haul upgrade ?x 1
drone base damage : 48x 1.92= 92.16
drone damage after all skills with no stacking. (1885pds)
drone travel over 100k.
this is design to fit in with a Ishtar fleet.
Bendak Starcrusher
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2013-08-26 22:04:00 UTC
You can solo all you want. The higher the ship level frig, cru, BC, B. The less soloing builds you should do. If you can incorporate frigs for haul repairs, cruisers for attacking, BC for EW, and battle ships for artillery. Then its damn fun.. Go get bored and try soloing..
enigma marine
Doom Generation
Best Intentions.
#3 - 2013-08-26 23:28:43 UTC  |  Edited by: enigma marine
drone tracking mods are midslot items, and 4 EANMs are worthless, don't use more than two. also, i wonder how you get your 1900 dps figures, since even a pimp vindi maxes out at 1600
Alticus C Bear
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2013-08-26 23:47:13 UTC
I believe he may think he can have more drones. Drone control units are capital modules.
Bendak Starcrusher
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2013-08-27 08:00:53 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD LackOfFaith
Personal attack redacted. -- ISD LackOfFaith
Do the research.

High is drone control (20k x 6= 120k).
Med is drone WMD. That's speed. (x6)
Low is drone damage augment (23%x1)
Low is drone tracking augment (? X1).
Low is armor (x4)
Low is haul (x1)

Drone damage list

Drone damage (48x1.92 = 92.16 base damage)

Drone ship bonus 10%x5=50% of 92.16 base damage.(46.08)

Drone gallente spec 2% x5 = 10% of 92.16 base damage (9.216)

Drone heavy drone spec 5% x5 = 25% of 92.16 base damage (15.54)

drone interface 20% x 5 = 100 %. Of 92.16 base damage (184.32)

Drone module 23% of 92.16 (21.19)

add all up. X 5 drones. (1313.??)dps for heavy.

for sentry. Drone is more dps
add rig (50x 1.5) notice it moved from 48 to 50.
add drone sentry skill 5% x 5 =25% instead of heavy drone.
add all other skills and you got 1800 dps for sentry.

if you know your stuff. You would of realized I gave you room to think. Like what rigs to use with heavy. What is 1800 dps... So plz stop and think I'm not going to babby sit you noob farming isk player. Oh I need a solo ship that tanks. Witch pull from the bonuses. So worthless...so solo
Bendak Starcrusher
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2013-08-27 08:16:15 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD LackOfFaith
the higher the ship type. The more limited the build becomes. You aren't superman one man army. Your solo ship is you acting stupid. Plz try to use what the ships offer instead of dps. I didn't use guns and I can still fix my 13,000 dps with gun dps making more dps or my sentry set up to do even more with guns. But I have to baby sit you {Personal attack redacted. -- ISD LackOfFaith}.tell you all my secrets and plays.. Sorry I can only help open your eyes.. I'm not giving out free stuff to dull my game play..
Alticus C Bear
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2013-08-27 08:45:46 UTC
Your maths is wrong.

Even if you put three Drone damage mods on with Ogres and max skills you only get 793dps.
Lloyd Roses
Artificial Memories
#8 - 2013-08-27 09:47:55 UTC
Frank Millar
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2013-08-27 10:21:53 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD LackOfFaith
I'll be finishing Gallente Battleship V next month, so I find these threads Fascinating and Fabulous.

Please share more of your superior fits with this {Redacted personal attack. -- ISD LackOfFaith}. Bear
Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#10 - 2013-08-27 10:43:03 UTC
OP, you're doing it wrong.

DNI or Ishtar and calculations/drones modules etc is quite a mess.

Download EFT&Pyfa, build your thing as properly as you can and only then someone will maybe give you a more or less serious opinion.

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Whitehound
#11 - 2013-08-27 12:51:12 UTC
Bendak Starcrusher wrote:
this is design to fit in with a Ishtar fleet.

What do the Ishtars look like?

Not much point in saying it needs to fit in with a Ishtar fleet without knowing what these Ishtars look like.

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#12 - 2013-08-27 14:38:17 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD LackOfFaith
Bendak Starcrusher wrote:

{Redacted personal attack. -- ISD LackOfFaith
Do the research.

High is drone control (20k x 6= 120k).
Med is drone WMD. That's speed. (x6)
Low is drone damage augment (23%x1)
Low is drone tracking augment (? X1).
Low is armor (x4)
Low is haul (x1)

Drone damage list

Drone damage (48x1.92 = 92.16 base damage)

Drone ship bonus 10%x5=50% of 92.16 base damage.(46.08)

Drone gallente spec 2% x5 = 10% of 92.16 base damage (9.216)

Drone heavy drone spec 5% x5 = 25% of 92.16 base damage (15.54)

drone interface 20% x 5 = 100 %. Of 92.16 base damage (184.32)

Drone module 23% of 92.16 (21.19)

add all up. X 5 drones. (1313.??)dps for heavy.

for sentry. Drone is more dps
add rig (50x 1.5) notice it moved from 48 to 50.
add drone sentry skill 5% x 5 =25% instead of heavy drone.
add all other skills and you got 1800 dps for sentry.

if you know your stuff. You would of realized I gave you room to think. Like what rigs to use with heavy. What is 1800 dps... So plz stop and think I'm not going to babby sit you noob farming isk player. Oh I need a solo ship that tanks. Witch pull from the bonuses. So worthless...so solo


Your math hurts my sensibilities so very much. Please learn how it works.

Bendak Starcrusher wrote:
You can solo all you want. The higher the ship level frig, cru, BC, B. The less soloing builds you should do. If you can incorporate frigs for haul repairs, cruisers for attacking, BC for EW, and battle ships for artillery. Then its damn fun.. Go get bored and try soloing..


There's something about this quote that really tickles my fancy though. It says so much while saying so little.
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Viziam
Amarr Empire
#13 - 2013-08-27 18:39:57 UTC
Bendak Starcrusher wrote:
H: drone control link x6
M: drone navigation X6
L: drone damage x 1
L: drone tracking x1
L: resistance plates x4
L: haul upgrade ?x 1
drone base damage : 48x 1.92= 92.16
drone damage after all skills with no stacking. (1885pds)
drone travel over 100k.
this is design to fit in with a Ishtar fleet.


Consider flying an Ishtar to fit in with an Ishtar fleet.
ISD LackOfFaith
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#14 - 2013-08-27 18:56:35 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD LackOfFaith
The calculations make some degree of sense, you missed fire rate. Even if those numbers are right (they're not, the bonuses follow a more complicated path when being applied) they only show the alpha of the drones, or how much damage they do per shot.

Assuming your result numbers are correct...

Ogre IIs have a RoF of 4 seconds. (1313 damage per shot) / (4 seconds per shot) = 328.25 damage per second.
Garde IIs also have a RoF of 4 seconds. (1800 damage per shot) / (4 seconds per shot) = 450 damage per second.

Anyway...

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State War Academy
Caldari State
#15 - 2013-08-27 19:23:40 UTC
I wish i could drink my breakfast like OP

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