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Fortress Sahtogas - CCP Intervention Required

Author
Bad Messenger
Rehabilitation Clinic
#21 - 2013-08-26 12:35:43 UTC
it does not matter much which system has been longenst held because CCP ****** up things several times and decided/ caused that owners should change.

One of the longest conquered systems was back in times Ladistier until exPERVS players decided they do not want to hold it anymore. Nisuwa has been strong hold for gallente some times.

Basically i would not count systems that originally belong to some faction because those are much easier to hold and retake than conquered ones.
Murdoch Luther
The Marmite Mercenaries
BLACKFLAG.
#22 - 2013-08-26 14:38:42 UTC
For anyone who has not noticed, Sahtogas is now in Minmatar hands :). It was taken with very little resistance in the US tz.
Aslon Seridith
Biohazard.
#23 - 2013-08-26 15:04:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Aslon Seridith
So much for this 'fortress' sahtogas

It got plexed up in 2 days. Taken straight after it. I hear WINMATAR? :)

㋡ it's ASLON SERIDTH? | Minmatar Most Loved #1 | Gave Amarr a Medal | Orchestrator of BurnHuola'14 |

Author of: How to win FW in 3 months | Nullsec Bittervet | www.winmatar.com

Christine Peeveepeeski
Low Sec Concepts
#24 - 2013-08-26 15:14:01 UTC
Nah, you're all so terrible we let you have it. Didn't need that sahtogas anyway.

Plato Forko
123 Fake Street
#25 - 2013-08-26 18:31:08 UTC
Sahtogas has never been anything like a fortress since I've been there. The only reason it was unflippable was because corps like AVNG and KOZA actively patrolled and harassed, even in poorly translated Russian, any Minmatar that thought they could just casually farm up the contest rate. The events of last night just highlighted the sorry state of Amarr militia. Only three or four small corps represented, all of us lacking the will to accept heavy losses knowing no backup was coming. ILAW came at least but they were the only ones and it wasn't enough.

I guess the impact of Fweddit leaving never resonated as strongly within the militia as it should have. We're basically down to just small corps skirmishing and relying entirely on outside income because we really can't raise hundreds of millions of ISK in LP daily like the Minmatar can. To be frank, a lot of good pilots aren't just leaving FW, they're leaving the game altogether because of various grievances with the mechanics, the most pressing of which is the borked LP payout scheme (i.e. more LP for kiting a button than for earning a kill).

In the end, there were no winners yesterday. Sorry to speak on your behalf, WINMATAR, but there could only be one reason to show up for a hub bash with a combat doctrine. I know at least R.A.P.E. corporation threw most of our remaining ISK (earned with alts outside of the warzone, ofc) into an attempt to supply a strong combat fleet but our allied forces were few and bitter. It's a sorry state when we can't raise a decent combat fleet even on a weekend at the end of summer.

Maybe farmers will come and wrestle back some warzone control for Amarr, but the status quo outright sucks right now. Minmatar will have to settle for fighting SC and PL, and Amarr militia will likely continue to fall apart because we certainly don't have the will to keep farming plex for a pittance (because it's the only way to earn in FW, thanks CCP).
kraiklyn Asatru
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#26 - 2013-08-26 20:23:18 UTC
Seems Eszur has never been flipped.
Drax Concrilla
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#27 - 2013-08-26 21:03:08 UTC
It would also appear Sirekur has never been flipped either, according to Dotlan.
Christine Peeveepeeski
Low Sec Concepts
#28 - 2013-08-26 22:53:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Christine Peeveepeeski
kraiklyn Asatru wrote:
Seems Eszur has never been flipped.


Thats because you are all bad and won't come to sis and beat us... 1 jump away. I'd have figured you'd have flipped it by now.....




GAME ON BITCHES

*edit* see that look in my eyes in my super serious picture post of my avatar... thats me being super serious....
kraiklyn Asatru
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#29 - 2013-08-27 09:06:48 UTC  |  Edited by: kraiklyn Asatru
We refuse to recognize the existence of the Siseide-Eszur gate.

Edit: weren't you in front for a bit? Not interested in null I take?
Eran Mintor
Metropolis Commercial Consortium
#30 - 2013-08-27 11:52:42 UTC
kraiklyn Asatru wrote:
Seems Eszur has never been flipped.


Probably because nobody cares about Eszur/T.R.I.A.D.

I'm sorry Resprox don't hate me, I love you.

There is sarcasm in one of these three sentences, and if you find it, I'll be impressed.
Christine Peeveepeeski
Low Sec Concepts
#31 - 2013-08-27 12:15:56 UTC
kraiklyn Asatru wrote:
We refuse to recognize the existence of the Siseide-Eszur gate.

Edit: weren't you in front for a bit? Not interested in null I take?


Not really no but I didn't leave front for that. OF are great old mates, my first alliance and ever since then I've always had a soft spot for them.

So last night in my drunken rampage across the stars I was **** talking up local.... somewhere near sahtogas. I engaged a nado pilot in my trusty slicer and while getting dizzy nibbling his shields off waiting for his mates to turn up a minmatar Biohazard guy joined me in **** talking. Turns out sis is on the cards according to his local splurging (although my splurging was worse in fairness)! OMFG WHO KNEW THIS!!!!!!!

Anyway I had to bail from the nado as it got close to armour, he called in talwar buddy and I was like DAMN YOU LML SPEWING FRIGATE DEATH MACHINE.

True story!




David Devant
CTRL-Q
Ushra'Khan
#32 - 2013-08-27 12:32:59 UTC
How things are right now the militia could take any system at will. If you don't believe this call a system and I'll prove you wrong.

wp bio
Eran Mintor
Metropolis Commercial Consortium
#33 - 2013-08-27 12:41:28 UTC
David Devant wrote:
How things are right now the militia could take any system at will. If you don't believe this call a system and I'll prove you wrong.

wp bio


And this is something to boast about....why? Or is this your way of saying FW is flawed?
David Devant
CTRL-Q
Ushra'Khan
#34 - 2013-08-27 13:22:59 UTC
A bit of both. FW is flawed. But you'd be a fool to think that the Minnie/Amarr theatre is the way it is because of economics. Your militia (certainly in the EU) is presently a dead loss, that's not because of farmers it's because of a lack of organisation and leadership.

Christine Peeveepeeski
Low Sec Concepts
#35 - 2013-08-27 13:33:00 UTC
David Devant wrote:
A bit of both. FW is flawed. But you'd be a fool to think that the Minnie/Amarr theatre is the way it is because of economics. Your militia (certainly in the EU) is presently a dead loss, that's not because of farmers it's because of a lack of organisation and leadership.



In fairness I can't disagree with the bolded bit, minmatar militia are all still terrible though [insert thinly veiled reason why here].

On a side note your earlier post suggests that if I call a system you shall have it conquered in the name of the mighty minmatar. AWESOME. I shall get the dartboard ready so I can randomly pick one of the remaining amarr systems to be OMFGROFLstomped (which in an odd twist of fate is the name of corp in minmatar fw!)

Anyway, for what I can do I'll see if I can rustle up some kind of fight in the EU TZ. I think it's going to take some prodding and some pretty epic small gang **** to inspire everyone first mind you :P

TALLY - HO
Perkin Warbeck
Higher Than Everest
#36 - 2013-08-27 13:35:36 UTC
David Devant wrote:
A bit of both. FW is flawed. But you'd be a fool to think that the Minnie/Amarr theatre is the way it is because of economics. Your militia (certainly in the EU) is presently a dead loss, that's not because of farmers it's because of a lack of organisation and leadership.



It all went downhill after we kicked you out of Arzad (cough, cough). I vote for Christine and Zarnak to reforge the Anarr militia and lead it to glorious new heights. I missed you guys.
Christine Peeveepeeski
Low Sec Concepts
#37 - 2013-08-27 13:43:59 UTC
Perkin Warbeck wrote:
David Devant wrote:
A bit of both. FW is flawed. But you'd be a fool to think that the Minnie/Amarr theatre is the way it is because of economics. Your militia (certainly in the EU) is presently a dead loss, that's not because of farmers it's because of a lack of organisation and leadership.



It all went downhill after we kicked you out of Arzad (cough, cough). I vote for Christine and Zarnak to reforge the Anarr militia and lead it to glorious new heights. I missed you guys.


/wipes away tear

I MISS YOU TOO PERKIN.

Serious note though yeah, I'll see what I can rustle up. Pretty tough task but someone's got to give it a go and at the very least it'll be a damn fine laugh trying. May even inspire some less ******** people than me to take up some reigns :D

Lamya Fox
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#38 - 2013-08-27 15:19:45 UTC
I seriously contemplated resubbing my Main just to post this.

But Meh.....We took ourzad while they lived in it. We figured that was our main goal in EVE. We won EVE when we pushed back the last minnie push from three Amarr systems to the fall of Arzad in one months time, The sight of IO carriers gtfo'ing from Arzad undock was all the endgame anyone at Amarr could have asked for.

So ya go ahead and pat yourselves on the back for taking Saht with no one defending it. We all know exactly when push comes to shove who gets pushed and who gets shoved.

AVNG.
Christine Peeveepeeski
Low Sec Concepts
#39 - 2013-08-27 15:32:47 UTC
Lamya Fox wrote:
I seriously contemplated resubbing my Main just to post this.

But Meh.....We took ourzad while they lived in it. We figured that was our main goal in EVE. We won EVE when we pushed back the last minnie push from three Amarr systems to the fall of Arzad in one months time, The sight of IO carriers gtfo'ing from Arzad undock was all the endgame anyone at Amarr could have asked for.

So ya go ahead and pat yourselves on the back for taking Saht with no one defending it. We all know exactly when push comes to shove who gets pushed and who gets shoved.

AVNG.


OOOOooh that's why everyone gone!

Makes sense, old school / new school and all that. Hope you guys are having fun whatever you're doing :)
Aslon Seridith
Biohazard.
#40 - 2013-08-27 16:22:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Aslon Seridith
Lamya Fox wrote:
I seriously contemplated resubbing my Main just to post this.
So ya go ahead and pat yourselves on the back for taking Saht with no one defending it. We all know exactly when push comes to shove who gets pushed and who gets shoved.
AVNG.


Really?

http://biohazardcorp.com/kb/?a=kill_related&kll_id=8420

That's all what there is left of the amarr rightnow, the rest became forum warriors I notice here.
The organization amongst the minmatar corps/alliances proves once again... it's simply better ..

㋡ it's ASLON SERIDTH? | Minmatar Most Loved #1 | Gave Amarr a Medal | Orchestrator of BurnHuola'14 |

Author of: How to win FW in 3 months | Nullsec Bittervet | www.winmatar.com