Missions & Complexes

Again, any specialty salvage frig with bonuses that is even a smidge better than destroyers are at salvaging would be severely imbalances, and would not leave much to gain and be excited about when a player jumps to a Noctis. Destroyers pretty much already are the salvaging equivalent of the venture. Super cheap, super effective, and super short training time. The fact that it can do other things also is just a nice bonus, so quit looking at it as a drawback simply because it isn't specialized enough for you. As I've already pointed out, the average new player would be flying this spiffy new frigate you suggest for only a week, or maybe less, before being able to fly and afford a Noctis. Not really an effective use of developer time and resources.

Being that I want to be part of the solution rather than just point out issues with the idea, I will offer up thus suggestion. Spend 12 long minutes training for a destroyer, name it "super awesome specialty rookie salvage ship", and be content that you're quickly, easily, and cheaply flying a ship that does it's job just as well as the venture does its respective job.

Salvage is a profession.

The best paying profession a new player can have.

Meet old vets and clean for them and get a cut.

You can make well over 50 mil an hour.



Ore salvage frig is a horrible idea.

I'd much prefer an Ore salvage destroyer.
Because no bonus frigate with less then 8 high slots would be as effective as any existing destroyer.

Have it's bonuses be 5% beam range bonus per level of ore industrial.
This way it encourages players to train the ore industrial skill even earlier.

Give it a 15m3 drone bay for salvage drones.

It would have no way of stepping on the Noctis.

Response is spot on and to answer again what people keep asking;

A BC is much more training time than a dessie. We already had mining frigs but they sucked, so they reworked the system because it kept people from making money early in their careers.

A salvage dessie is more effective at salvaging than the old mining frigs were at mining, and more effective at salvaging than a BC is at mining also. So making a frigate more effective than that would be imbalanced as hell, and making a frigate less effective than that would be daft because in no time at all you could have the dessie. You can already start making a ton of money salvaging in Eve when your character is brand new. Its not broken, so don't fix it.

A salvaging only site makes no sense, for there to be salvage, something ships need blowing up. On the idea of the salvaging frigate, I can kinda understand that, if there going make a dedicated mining frigate, why not a salvaging one.

If you really want to make salvaging into a fully fledged profession, you could add another faction similar to ORE with its only storyline, ships and new "salvaging missions", similar to the current mining missions. I don't know if there would be many people that would get excited about this though, so convincing them to spend dev time developing this probably wouldn't be easy.

Your signature wins the internet good sir.

I like the idea of a dedicated salvage frigate, with the tractors having the same range and pull speed of a Noctis. Sure people currently use destroyers, but if I remember the tractor pulled items at a slow speed and the range they can reach is limited.

Something with 4 highs so that you can use 2 tractors and 2 salvagers would be ideal, especially for newer players that are wanting to make a little isk for not much outlay or even for more experienced players in a semi hostile environment where the slug that is a Noctis would be suicide.

One thing that would get me on board with the whole salvaging "profession" thing would be if you could live the live of a scavanger.

I am a new and solo player and constantly see videos of huge fleet fights out in null and think to myself "omg, look at all that cash floating around in the form of wrecks".

If there was a specialized salvaging ship it should be a covert ops type ship that allows you to salvage wrecks while operating in the middle of big fights as an unaffiliated party. This would give players even outside of powerblocks and people who dont want to pvp the chance to experience that part of the eve landscape. Imagine scanning the map for combat activity, grabbing your little scavanging ship and going right into where the action is.

These ships would need to be able to stay hidden for a bit while ninjaing wrecks (something like delaying appearing on an overview for several seconds while covert salvaging), would need to be able to get in and out of big fights and have no combat ability whatsoever (maybe something to keep them from being perfect scouts for pvp) to keep things balanced.

Racial Frigate: 5% reduction of the cycle time of salvagers per level.
Scavenging: 10% increase in the probability of salvaging attempts. 10% increase to scan strength of probes per level.
Role bonus: Can equip covert salvagers and covert cloaks.

Absolutely a great idea! Covert salvagers could benefit from a longer range (5km base, +1km per skill level?) as to help not break the cloak. Maybe even the ability to open the cargo of a wreck while cloaked (5km range?).

Salvaging an active battlefield would be dicey due to the risk of decloaking (or bombs), but with risk comes reward.

You sound like a whiney care bear. Go play WoW if you want things handed to you.

1. While the idea of a dedicated site for salvagers sounds great, it has already been said that it may destabilze parts of the economy that is a long way from recovering from the exploration update.

2. How about keeping it simple instead of a new ship? How about a low slot, frigate/destroyer only (civilian version maybe?) module that extends one of the stats on either the tractor or the salvager ... you get your bonuses without creating a new ship. Once its created, CCP can slow Salvaging profession (like they do every other profession) by extending the salvage skill (so no skillbook for a module that will be obsolete in a week) and it takes a couple extra days to get into a Noctis. This way, you can extend the life of a frigate/destroyer salvager and prepare player for a Noctis.