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Why EVE University is a Pox Upon this Game
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Corina Jarr
en Welle Shipping Inc.
#41 - 2011-11-13 04:38:44 UTC
Poetic Stanziel wrote:
JitaJane wrote:
Sorry I never flew a Mac and maybe I am missing something in the game mechanic so how exactly can they shoot back?
The Mackinaw can't shoot back ... but afterwards, you can do something about it. Go find the dude, fight his corp. Cause him and his buddies an equal amount of loss.

Mack has drones... drone have guns.

Of course, being properly aligned and actually playing the game go a long way towards not getting blown up. but most people just want easy mode. So they give easy mode too.
JitaJane
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#42 - 2011-11-13 04:43:28 UTC
Corina Jarr wrote:
Poetic Stanziel wrote:
JitaJane wrote:
Sorry I never flew a Mac and maybe I am missing something in the game mechanic so how exactly can they shoot back?
The Mackinaw can't shoot back ... but afterwards, you can do something about it. Go find the dude, fight his corp. Cause him and his buddies an equal amount of loss.

Mack has drones... drone have guns.

Of course, being properly aligned and actually playing the game go a long way towards not getting blown up. but most people just want easy mode. So they give easy mode too.


Drones have enough DPS to drop a jihadi? I would'nt know never tried. Again never flew any mining vessel. And really not sure how they are fitting suicides nowadays. Always sort of found drones were slow to apply DPS. And Concord rather fast. So I was guessing that if they were fit to last till concord they could handle a few drones...

90% of of the time my posts are about something I actually find interesting and want to learn more about. Do not be alarmed.

JitaJane
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#43 - 2011-11-13 04:46:18 UTC  |  Edited by: JitaJane
Poetic Stanziel wrote:
JitaJane wrote:
Sorry I never flew a Mac and maybe I am missing something in the game mechanic so how exactly can they shoot back?
The Mackinaw can't shoot back ... but afterwards, you can do something about it. Go find the dude, fight his corp. Cause him and his buddies an equal amount of loss.

Reading is fundamental. If they build a suicide alt (1 week of train 2 weeks of suicide) on a trial account are they going to put it in their real corp? I mean I suppose there are folks stupid enough to do that. I never heard of it but it's possible...

OH I see what you did there. You edited my post when you quoted. Giving it the appearance that you were actually responding to what I said. Adorable.

90% of of the time my posts are about something I actually find interesting and want to learn more about. Do not be alarmed.

Poetic Stanziel
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#44 - 2011-11-13 04:52:17 UTC
Lord Mandelor wrote:
I saw Poetic had made the topic, and expected a link to a blog.
I have changed the opening post to give interested readers a choice of where to click through.
MatrixSkye Mk2
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#45 - 2011-11-13 04:56:37 UTC
Poetic Stanziel wrote:
OMG I HATE CAREBEARS SO MUCH!11!

No ****.

Successfully doinitwrong™ since 2006.
Stella Dust
Doomheim
#46 - 2011-11-13 04:59:18 UTC
MatrixSkye Mk2 wrote:
Poetic Stanziel wrote:
OMG I HATE CAREBEARS SO MUCH!11!

No ****.



I have to wonder if the op is one of those PvP-carebears.
Poetic Stanziel
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#47 - 2011-11-13 05:11:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Poetic Stanziel
Stella Dust wrote:
I have to wonder if the op is one of those PvP-carebears.
I suck at PvP. But I would NEVER ask CCP to take away the opportunity for someone to kill me, anywhere in the game. I play this game because I love the risk and danger. To take that away is to neuter the game.
Poetic StanziAlt
Doomheim
#48 - 2011-11-13 05:13:07 UTC
Poetic Stanziel wrote:
Asuri Kinnes wrote:
Poetic Stanziel wrote:
EVE University graduates their students...
Grow up and HTFU, ffs and get some therapy...

You're at the forefront of defending their carebear attitudes. I'd harden the **** up if CCP wasn't working so hard to soften the **** up. EVE University is the reason why this game is become soft and doughy.


Pot meet Kettle. You are a carebear, most of the uni probably has better killboard stats than you do. If I recall you went on a grand total of one pvp fleet while you were in the uni. You spent most of your time in the uni whining about the uni and being one of those carebears you seem to loathe soo much.
Denidil
Cascades Mountain Operatives
#49 - 2011-11-13 05:13:42 UTC
Poetic Stanziel wrote:
Denidil wrote:
sweet sweet griefer tiers. if you want pew pew go fight someone who can shoot back.

Highsec players can shoot back. Choosing not to shoot back is not the same as being unable to shoot back.

If someone shoots your Mackinaw, you can do something about it. Running to the forums and screaming at CCP to fix things so that you don't lose anymore Mackinaws is hardly the answer.


some players don't want to play the game the way you want them to, and for that you're QQing all over the forums. i don't see Eve-U doing any of the things you're accusing them off - I see YOU doing those things. This is called projection. if you want to fight people go attack players in 0.0. i'll suggest the drone regions.

Tedium and difficulty are not the same thing, if you don't realize this then STFU about game design.
Kengutsi Akira
Doomheim
#50 - 2011-11-13 05:18:16 UTC
itd be better is poetic just wrote blogs instead of writing 100 qq threads a day

"Is it fair that CCP can get away with..." :: checks ownership on the box ::

Yes
Stella Dust
Doomheim
#51 - 2011-11-13 05:18:22 UTC
Poetic Stanziel wrote:
Stella Dust wrote:
I have to wonder if the op is one of those PvP-carebears.
I suck at PvP. But I would NEVER ask CCP to take away the opportunity for someone to kill me, anywhere in the game. I play this game because I love the risk and danger. To take that away is to neuter the game.




I believe a part of what you just said, the bit about you 'suck at PvP', but that as far as it goes.
Denidil
Cascades Mountain Operatives
#52 - 2011-11-13 05:19:23 UTC
Poetic Stanziel wrote:
JitaJane wrote:
Sorry I never flew a Mac and maybe I am missing something in the game mechanic so how exactly can they shoot back?
The Mackinaw can't shoot back ... but afterwards, you can do something about it. Go find the dude, fight his corp. Cause him and his buddies an equal amount of loss.



and how exactly do you do this with "don't care dessie alts" that they can just park for 2 months if they so choose?

please tell me, i would love to know how my gank alt is at risk when i'm playing my main.

Tedium and difficulty are not the same thing, if you don't realize this then STFU about game design.
Poetic Stanziel
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#53 - 2011-11-13 05:19:24 UTC
Poetic StanziAlt wrote:
You are a carebear, most of the uni probably has better killboard stats than you do. If I recall you went on a grand total of one pvp fleet while you were in the uni. You spent most of your time in the uni whining about the uni and being one of those carebears you seem to loathe soo much.
I've been on ten or so fleets and lead a small wolfpack once.

Like I said, I suck at PvP, but I would never deny someone the game mechanics that allow them to kill me. This is a game of conflict.
Denidil
Cascades Mountain Operatives
#54 - 2011-11-13 05:27:03 UTC
Poetic Stanziel wrote:
Poetic StanziAlt wrote:
You are a carebear, most of the uni probably has better killboard stats than you do. If I recall you went on a grand total of one pvp fleet while you were in the uni. You spent most of your time in the uni whining about the uni and being one of those carebears you seem to loathe soo much.
I've been on ten or so fleets and lead a small wolfpack once.

Like I said, I suck at PvP, but I would never deny someone the game mechanics that allow them to kill me. This is a game of conflict.


and nobody is denying the ability. even with all the changes ganking at still completely possible, it just *gasp* HAS CONSEQUENCES.

EVE after all is supposed to be a game of consequences, the fact that you can create a 21 day disposable trial account, train for 7 days, then use it to suicide gank for two weeks is the epitome of breaking eve - you're avoiding the consequences of your actions with a trial account. this is the same reason the "negative sec status alt recycling" is a potentially bannable offensive (if you do it a lot).

Tedium and difficulty are not the same thing, if you don't realize this then STFU about game design.
Stella Dust
Doomheim
#55 - 2011-11-13 05:28:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Stella Dust
Poetic Stanziel wrote:
Poetic StanziAlt wrote:
You are a carebear, most of the uni probably has better killboard stats than you do. If I recall you went on a grand total of one pvp fleet while you were in the uni. You spent most of your time in the uni whining about the uni and being one of those carebears you seem to loathe soo much.
I've been on ten or so fleets and lead a small wolfpack once.

Like I said, I suck at PvP, but I would never deny someone the game mechanics that allow them to kill me. This is a game of conflict.



Poetic Stanziel and Poetic StanziAlt

If it is an alt of yours you do realise you're not allowed to post with a main answering an alt or alt answering a main.
Jack All'Trade
Doomheim
#56 - 2011-11-13 05:28:40 UTC
what is it with all these carebears crying about carebears as of lately?

op, plz HTFU. pretty plz.
ThisIsntMyMain
Doomheim
#57 - 2011-11-13 05:32:31 UTC
Poetic Stanziel wrote:
I've been on ten or so fleets and lead a small wolfpack once.

Like I said, I suck at PvP, ...... This is a game of conflict.


Ugh
Poetic Stanziel
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#58 - 2011-11-13 05:49:25 UTC
Denidil wrote:
Poetic Stanziel wrote:
Like I said, I suck at PvP, but I would never deny someone the game mechanics that allow them to kill me. This is a game of conflict.
The fact that you can create a 21 day disposable trial account, train for 7 days, then use it to suicide gank for two weeks is the epitome of breaking eve - you're avoiding the consequences of your actions with a trial account.

I agree with you. That is lame. I've ganked a Mackinaw once, it was on this character. I shall gank again, and it shall be on this character.
Thorn Galen
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse
The Curatores Veritatis Auxiliary
#59 - 2011-11-13 06:34:53 UTC
Justin Credulent wrote:
I'm tired of reading you cry about E-UNI.

If you want risk, go to low-sec. If you want conflict, convince the null-sec carebears to actually start fighting eachother.


^^ This, very much this.

COO - Bene Gesserit Chapterhouse  CEO - Sanctuary Pact Alliance
Hero Tackler
Doomheim
#60 - 2011-11-13 08:55:02 UTC
Oh lordy this dude is the gift that keeps on giving Lol

More meta than you