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Captain Tardbar
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#41 - 2013-08-25 15:35:49 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
Harry Forever wrote:
bullshit


So it's OK for you to say this, but not me?


Nope. Its never OK for you to say anything.

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Barzai Mekhar
True Confusion
#42 - 2013-08-25 15:49:26 UTC
Harry Forever wrote:

you sure mixed something up there, 95% of nullsec is dead each day

It feels dead and empty all the time... to find fights is like to find a needle in a haystack


And your solution to making it less dead and empty is to periodically blow up everything that made its way into nullsec despite this? Makes sense. I'm sure not being able to make long-term plans for a region and not being able to securely stash valuables will encourage people to move to nullsec. In other news, I've got this great idea for selling real estate close to an active volcanoe, I'm sure this will work out just as well.
Khanh'rhh
Sparkle Motion.
#43 - 2013-08-25 15:59:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Khanh'rhh
Harry Forever wrote:
Malcanis wrote:
Harry Forever wrote:
Malcanis wrote:
On behalf of the people who actually live in 0.0, I'd like to thank new hi-sec player #23,078 for his insightful, perceptive and useful ideas on how we should be yet further disadvantaged.


brainless comment as usual, thanks malcanis, the last 4 month i was more in nullsec then all your friends combined


Really? INIT. just finished a campaign in which over 30,000 ships were destroyed. Nothing to do with Fountain or goons or TEST. Our own "little" war with the Stain Russians.

I presume you can match that?


you sure mixed something up there, 95% of nullsec is dead each day

It feels dead and empty all the time... to find fights is like to find a needle in a haystack

GSF alone is part of 20000-30000 killmails a month. Or, ~1000 per day. It's thousands upon thousands a day when you include the dozens of other sov holding alliances.

As we told you over and over and over and over again, you won't find people in VFK when we're deployed half the galaxy away in Fountain. The fact you found it empty is because you deliberately went to where there were very few people.

I ... I just don't know how to respond to your insane ramblings.

You're told what to expect, you claim you know better, then when we're right you then make another dumb claim about the same thing instead of thinking "hey, maybe everyone else is right and I need to learn what I'm talking about before I speak"

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Lephia DeGrande
Luxembourg Space Union
#44 - 2013-08-25 16:04:47 UTC
Indeed the Suggestion isnt any Good, but there is one Little truth in there, Null Members are kinda Carebears to, really exciting changes arent welcome thats a shame.

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Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#45 - 2013-08-25 16:19:46 UTC
As usual, another terrible idea from Harry. We need to figure out a title for him. I was thinking "Nublord". Kinda like the sound of that.

The main premise behind this idea is that people should be harshly, severely penalized for doing what they were supposed to do in sov space, set down roots and establish themselves.

It would also have the side effect of making it completely pointless for anyone to be in nullsec, since doing the things that would be harshly punished by this sad excuse for a mechanic are the only reason to be in nullsec in the first place.

So, "bring(ing) life to nullsec" translates into killing it completely, and functionally deleting it from the servers.

However, I do consider Harry's latest idea to be a good learning experience for everyone on the forums. I.E., a "what not to be" for all the new players, and an excellent example of why smoking meth is bad for your mental health (and/or that of your fetus). Also an excellent reason why you should not let your adolescent children on the internet. Take your pick, he applies to at least one.

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La Nariz
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#46 - 2013-08-25 16:40:19 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
As usual, another terrible idea from Harry. We need to figure out a title for him. I was thinking "Nublord". Kinda like the sound of that.

The main premise behind this idea is that people should be harshly, severely penalized for doing what they were supposed to do in sov space, set down roots and establish themselves.

It would also have the side effect of making it completely pointless for anyone to be in nullsec, since doing the things that would be harshly punished by this sad excuse for a mechanic are the only reason to be in nullsec in the first place.

So, "bring(ing) life to nullsec" translates into killing it completely, and functionally deleting it from the servers.

However, I do consider Harry's latest idea to be a good learning experience for everyone on the forums. I.E., a "what not to be" for all the new players, and an excellent example of why smoking meth is bad for your mental health (and/or that of your fetus). Also an excellent reason why you should not let your adolescent children on the internet. Take your pick, he applies to at least one.


"Terrible Poster" or some genuine SA style red text would do him well.

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Harry Forever
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#47 - 2013-08-25 16:44:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Harry Forever
Donbe Scurred wrote:
Harry, all of your ideas are terrible and you should feel terrible.

Please go away.

You contribute nothing but idiocy, poor arguments and a delusional sense of reality.

When presented with an argument you put your fingers in your ears and start screaming. (read: block people)

Get yourself some sov (oh wait you need friends for that) and after you have gone through what it takes to get it, come back and tell us your OP is still a good idea.


god point, taking sov should be much easier, to assure people do not sit on it like on an golden egg, thats the main reason nobody wants to fight and so much just jump under the safe umbrella of the CFC

by the way I requested Sov from the goons, however they revused to hand it over, gone through some terrible nights because of that

Harry Forever vs. Goonswarm
Harry Forever
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#48 - 2013-08-25 16:49:13 UTC
Barzai Mekhar wrote:
Harry Forever wrote:

you sure mixed something up there, 95% of nullsec is dead each day

It feels dead and empty all the time... to find fights is like to find a needle in a haystack


And your solution to making it less dead and empty is to periodically blow up everything that made its way into nullsec despite this? Makes sense. I'm sure not being able to make long-term plans for a region and not being able to securely stash valuables will encourage people to move to nullsec. In other news, I've got this great idea for selling real estate close to an active volcanoe, I'm sure this will work out just as well.


it would just add another layer to the Sov gameplay, people would still go there, but assure they be more agile out there and can move stuff around, it would just add dynamic to nullsec, however I knew this idea would cause panic , people do not seem to be flexible, the reactions just confirm that a shakeup is needed

Harry Forever vs. Goonswarm
Elizabeth Aideron
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#49 - 2013-08-25 16:50:44 UTC
Harry Forever wrote:
Barzai Mekhar wrote:
Harry Forever wrote:

you sure mixed something up there, 95% of nullsec is dead each day

It feels dead and empty all the time... to find fights is like to find a needle in a haystack


And your solution to making it less dead and empty is to periodically blow up everything that made its way into nullsec despite this? Makes sense. I'm sure not being able to make long-term plans for a region and not being able to securely stash valuables will encourage people to move to nullsec. In other news, I've got this great idea for selling real estate close to an active volcanoe, I'm sure this will work out just as well.


it would just add another layer to the Sov gameplay, people would still go there, but assure they be more agile out there and can move stuff around, it would just add dynamic to nullsec, however I knew this idea would cause panic , people do not seem to be flexible, the reactions just confirm that a shakeup is needed


You do realize that in most cases, taking sov is already of questionable value, right?
Donbe Scurred
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#50 - 2013-08-25 16:55:10 UTC
Harry Forever wrote:
Donbe Scurred wrote:
Harry, all of your ideas are terrible and you should feel terrible.

Please go away.

You contribute nothing but idiocy, poor arguments and a delusional sense of reality.

When presented with an argument you put your fingers in your ears and start screaming. (read: block people)

Get yourself some sov (oh wait you need friends for that) and after you have gone through what it takes to get it, come back and tell us your OP is still a good idea.


god point, taking sov should be much easier, to assure people do not sit on it like on an golden egg, thats the main reason nobody wants to fight and so much just jump under the safe umbrella of the CFC

by the way I requested Sov from the goons, however they revused to hand it over, gone through some terrible nights because of that


Roll Thank you for further proving your delusion.
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#51 - 2013-08-25 16:58:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
Harry Forever wrote:

you sure mixed something up there, 95% of nullsec is dead each day

It feels dead and empty all the time
Sounds like the space between your ears Harry

Quote:
to find fights a coherent thought is like trying to find a needle in a haystack
Fixed this part for you.

All those not currently blocked by Harry say "AYE"

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Feyd's Survival Pack
Darth Espectro
Doomheim
#52 - 2013-08-25 17:04:09 UTC
Now, it's been a while since school, but I'm pretty sure you need a Red Supergiant star in order to get a Supernova.

I'm also fairly positive that the stars in the New Eden systems, even in Sov space, are Main Sequence stage, stable like our sun.

Wormholes have the Red Giants, but even those aren't the size category large enough for Supernovas. When they die, they'll just become Dwarf Stars.

In short, your suggestion is not backed by science, so Realism can not be the reason for its implementation.

It appears the Gameplay angle has already been shot down, so I will not touch it.
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#53 - 2013-08-25 17:18:35 UTC
Harry Forever wrote:
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Harry Forever wrote:
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
This was covered earlier this week:

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=3528397


Yet another duplicate thread.


read through it before you respond bullshit

my thread is about a game mechanic in detail, bringing life to SOV warfare

the other thread is just general stuff

if you don't have anything to add, then just stop commenting


Just so there is a record of your bannable post.

edit: You also must have really enjoyed that other thread, as you've quoted word for word 3 postings from it so far that I've found.


as you are unable to add anything to the topic and you just keep bubbling bullshit

blocked



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SmilingVagrant
Doomheim
#54 - 2013-08-25 17:19:44 UTC
Cyber SGB wrote:
I don't like your idea.

How about this one.

Get rid of Cynos, Jump Bridges, and Local.


Yeah I was just thinking to myself "How to make nullsec alive" and the first three ideas I came up with were ones that would make it miserable and unfun to live in and voila.
Harland White
Adventurer's Guild
#55 - 2013-08-25 17:21:21 UTC
Cyber SGB wrote:
I don't like your idea.

How about this one.

Get rid of Cynos, Jump Bridges, and Local.


Dumbest idea ever.

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Anozeph
State War Academy
Caldari State
#56 - 2013-08-25 18:00:35 UTC
worst idea ever.
Harry Forever
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#57 - 2013-08-25 18:09:23 UTC
SmilingVagrant wrote:
Cyber SGB wrote:
I don't like your idea.

How about this one.

Get rid of Cynos, Jump Bridges, and Local.


Yeah I was just thinking to myself "How to make nullsec alive" and the first three ideas I came up with were ones that would make it miserable and unfun to live in and voila.


miserable :') *sniff* sure we don't want you guys to feel uncomfortable out there... how about mining and ratting robots who do the work for you?

Harry Forever vs. Goonswarm
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#58 - 2013-08-25 18:17:31 UTC
Harry Forever wrote:
SmilingVagrant wrote:
Cyber SGB wrote:
I don't like your idea.

How about this one.

Get rid of Cynos, Jump Bridges, and Local.


Yeah I was just thinking to myself "How to make nullsec alive" and the first three ideas I came up with were ones that would make it miserable and unfun to live in and voila.


miserable :') *sniff* sure we don't want you guys to feel uncomfortable out there... how about mining and ratting robots who do the work for you?



They have those already, they're called renters.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Diablo Ex
Nocturne Holdings
#59 - 2013-08-25 18:34:19 UTC
Nullsec is the way it is because the SOV holders like it that way. If they really, and honestly wanted things to change they would make the changes. The problem is that there are too many players in High Sec that would like to get more access, but they don't have the resources to fight a major war. Renting is a sad, fruitless joke. Nullsec population is intentionally kept low and the best farming areas are well protected. Having immigrants move into Nullsec can only reduce profits.

The only reason for people to play this game now is simply to provide "good fights" and entertainment for wealthy Sov Holders.

... OK... You Win EvE....

Now, go play Star Citizen and Give me your stuff...

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Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#60 - 2013-08-25 18:41:57 UTC
Captain Tardbar wrote:
Malcanis wrote:
Harry Forever wrote:
bullshit


So it's OK for you to say this, but not me?


Nope. Its never OK for you to say anything.


What a series of disappointments your life must be.

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