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You believe the ends, and no matter how hypothetical these are, justify the means and any means. We certainly do assess a situation before we decide on the means and sometimes we decide against the means.

This was not some coffee machine that got hacked. Again, pacemakers are life-saving devices. You do not go around and tell people you can kill them by hacking into them. Nor do you publicly claim to have hacked cashing machines. You will only support hacking attempts with such claims and not prevent them. You will in fact cause them.

You could as well claim to have invented digestible razor blades and go nation-wide on television with it. How many kids do you think could feel inspired by this to swallow normal razor blades?

You could just go around and burn houses for not being fire-proof. You tell people life is a cycle of creation and destruction and will find people who will agree with you. Or it might just be a dumb idea and you have not thought it through well enough.

I guess someone didn't have the... heart... to let him live.

YEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!!!

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We already tell kids that a film is just a film and is not real. Television shows depict almost anything these days. Every second show contains murder.

This guy claimed outside of television shows that one can attack people with implanted pacemakers and that he has proof. Not only does this scare older people, but it also renders all other hackers as attention seeking idiots who less people will now take serious, because of one guy going to extremes. You want to think about that, too, when you want to say that hackers can do good things for our society. Just stop thinking they are all good guys because they are hackers.

My post calling Whitehound out as a troll was removed, by an ISD, because calling him a troll was considered a personal attack. Whitehound is just a troll. Plain and simple. Nothing he argues can be taken seriously. You're just wasting your time responding to him.

Really. No matter how logical your argument, he'll turn what you say on it's head just to get you to reply again and again. It's useless.

So defending one hacker means I defend all hackers lmao!!! You sir are a troll because your obfuscation is too well written to write you off as a moron.

Whitehound, have you heard of DEFCON or Black HAT?

Nonsense, they are not all criminals. A boy who dresses like a pirate is also not automatically a pirate. You only do not tell them. Some just play around with what is theirs and call it hacking like they were criminals. It is however a normal behaviour for kids to take apart their toys and to study them.
Someone who publicly claims to have hacked cash machines is practically making a confession and might only not have been caught or left enough evidence for a conviction. A confession alone does not make a crime, it could be a lie, and if he has not been convicted then he might also not have actually broken into a banks security systems after all. However, If I give the hacker the benefit of the doubt and believe he actually did hack cash machines then it also makes him a criminal.

If all he did was walk to a cash machines, hack in 4 numbers and make it spit out money then I am hacker, too, because I do this all the time.

Wait what? This isn't what you said on post #16.




In any case, I'll take the answer as no to the question I asked and just leave it at that. It's all I needed to know.

And not every hacker is a criminal.