EVE General Discussion

Here's an idea to make low level missions viable again: standings degradation

Every week you lose somewhere between 1 and 10% standings per week (also the negative ones) depending on your skills and whether you are in a FW militia.

Then increase the standings boost from low level missions so these are the most efficient when grinding for corp standings (though FW still being the most efficient for faction standings). Because they keep their low ISK payout, low level missions are meant for newer players and for players seeking to quickly boost corp standings.

I think it would be balanced if you could get from zero to 9+ corp standings by doing about 10 hours of low level missions (less with better skills and equipment).

The standings bonus from high level mission is decreased to where doing several of them every day is required to counter the standing degradation (also depending on skills), so these missions are the ones done simply for the money.

I think this would be balanced where it would take 10 hours of level 4 missions to counter the weekly standings degradation at a 9+ level (less with better skills and equipment). The reward is already in the payout and shouldn't be in the standings boost.

CCP should also increase some of the NPC fees for corporation specific station services to make corp standings actually matter. Maybe even further restrict access in the LP store on standings as well. It would be good if this would be extended to NPC pirate factions as well.

I think it would also be nice if there was some negative standings interaction within factions (so you can't have good standings for both Kaalakiota and Ishukone for example).

The goal is to reward players that mind their standings (especially the ones that do low-level missions) over those that do not.

An additional major benefit is the less permanent effect of having tanked your standings through extensive mission running or FW, because over time they'll neutralize eventually (though it will take quite a while for them to neutralize from -10). I can imagine this is something that keeps many people from fully committing to FW.

I foresee many players protesting that they don't want to go and do missions just to keep their standings to a level where they get NPC benefits. I think however, that players, willing to put in some extra effort (and not simply to make L4 mission ISK) should be rewarded for it over the lazy people that don't and do all their industry and trading on alts they only log in for 10 minutes a day.

There will also be players complaining about losing their hard-grinded standings. vOv First of all, because this benefit is no longer permanent there will likely be less people competing with you on the same level if you actually maintain your standings. Secondly, it's easy enough to maintain your standings, especially for mission runners and FW people. Besides, doing some low level missions now and then in a different ship than your CNR, mach or rattler might be nice for a change.

It would mean that putting effort and committing yourself as a player to a NPC corporation would actually grant a decent benefit (without killing off future options permanently).

If you are so bored with the game that all you can do is troll post ... maybe it time to say goodbye to eve. You should crawl out from under that bridge and enjoy some sunshine. See you in the winter with some constructive posts.

*Cough* noobs *cough*

There is this old mantra... where... you get rewarded for working hard for something. It takes time from skill training and standings to get to level 4s, and they are more difficult to do than level 3s. So for investing the time, isk, and standings to do level 4 missions means you get rewarded with better pay outs.

More like a very selective picture at best. If you get lucky and get a set of good missions then it'd be fairly easy to do that in an hour or so. THe problem is when you have to start rejecting junk missions to keep up that hourly rate.

Also estimated value means crap when it comes to mission loot. Pretty much all the items are being overvalued with some being completely and ridiculously over priced. Also there's the fact that some of that loot isn't from mission running. I imagine once he gets through sorting it and selling he'll only make a 1/3rd of the estimated value at best from actual loot drops.

Why do you mind so much about the L4 missions?
People that invest in trading make billions per month in high sec and your problem are the L4 missions??
What do you want? Newbies running around in low-sec and null sec being easy targets to people that care only for easy kills and not decent PvP ??
If your interest is low sec risk, you can do what you want, and then do some missions every second day, you already have the ships.. If you don't want mission money do something else, missions are not the more profitable way in EvE...
Better go and think something smart to make this game better looking and more fun, rather than take the only good income source of new players away!!!! Like it or not, high sec activities are for people that don't play only for pew pew. Go gank the low-null sec gates and let others do PvP when they can and want.

The newbie spoke.

So blitzing gives lots of isk. Do most people do this? Does a new char running L4 solo in a T1 with partial T2 fit T1 BS get 60m/hr, or are we talking someone in a T2 / faction fitted BS/T2 BS/Faction BS?

What is the training time for the latter vs the former. What is the income in a T1 battleship?

sorry but your asking the wrong questions
those questions are irrelevant, all that's important is that you have the potential to make 60m per hour
and obviously if your not making 60m per hour, your a slack-jawed low brow who should biomass in shame.

that's not a personal insult aimed at you by the way
that's the clarification of the arrogant, self important attitude of certain people, based solely on the 'we've been here longer than you, so your a scummy scrub' mentality.

I'm dual boxing dual HaM tengu's running 2 missions at a time with aprox 2000isk per lp , making 110mill per hour 'half' blitzing (i'm not turning down as many missions as i'd like as I want standings increase more than isk atm)

Tengu really doesn't take long to train for.


Lvl 4 missions pay too much i'd agree, but lets be honest I can make more doing incursions or marginally more grinding 0.0 anoms... so is it really THAT unbalanced ?!