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LVL 4 missions - frigates problem

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Christyna Ishiyama
Perkone
Caldari State
#1 - 2013-08-24 10:49:13 UTC
Hello I would like to ask you for advice

I would like to advice whats the best option for lvl 4 mission runner:-)

I just lost my legion which wasnt bad at all, I just feel so indestructible that I tried to kill everything and let webifier and scramblers alone:-)

The reason was that its the only ships, which I can destroy very quickly.

I use only Tech 2 things and dont buying navy etc ... so I also want to make that mission runner cheap)

stats which I had:
DPS 520 with rage missiles (sometime I used Javelin too, with better skills I will have around 650)
Armor TANK: 550 effective HPS
1200 speed with afterburner

capacitator was stable.


As I said the only problem was frigates which was harder to kill for me (not impossible but it just take little longer than I would expect)

Right now I am not sure if I should try to swith to medium pulse lasers? or Just try to fit battleship. I would think about paladin, but unfortunately I dont have a skills for it now and it will take me some time to get it. But if you would advice that its good I can try it:-)

I try to fit it and it seems that paladin should have around
750 DPS without drones / 500 tank / 300 something speed with afterburner and its still cap stable

I just start writing so many things but really the main issue is to make it
SAFE (hard to kill), Good damage against all types od enemies (frigates to battleship), if it will be quick enough I will be happy, it should be cheap and it should have cheap maintanance (low cost on using it:-) )

I maybe want too much and nothing better than "LEGION" I will simply not found:-)

I reposting it here because, I put it into wrong place first time
March rabbit
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2013-08-24 11:03:03 UTC
can't help much. can only give few (pretty generic) advises:
- try to fit 1 Stasis Webifier, it will make killing frigates easier
- check if your missiles can be changed to ones better suited to kill frigates (faster explosion, less explosion radius, etc...)
- take a look to small drones, with good management they help with frigates

The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"

Froggy Storm
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#3 - 2013-08-24 11:20:46 UTC
For the Lego frigs and webs will always be a problem. The way I got around them was swapping a web and painter into mids. Those in conjunction with tracking scrip/ammo worker out fine for me. That was with pulse however. In the case of hams ,I believe but I'm not 100%, that using faction missiles will apply damage better than rage on small fast targets. You'd want to check that with a missile expert though.

Oh and avoid spider drone at all costs! All of my pve Lego losses were because of those damn things. Even with a web and point on them they circle so damn close my damage to them was minimal.
Deliram
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#4 - 2013-08-24 11:55:16 UTC
I have a tengu.. for missiles i find that target painter is usually a better choice. It's longer range make it very nice in mission were you get the spider drones(like serpentis extravaganza) were they spawn like 60-80km away if i'm not wrong.

Other than that please consider to use navy modules. I use those on my tengu... caldari launcher, caldari ballistic... the dps is pretty good and i use only T1 ammo, in comparison i think i do a little less dps but... before or later the ship will be cheaper because the ammo cost way less!
Christyna Ishiyama
Perkone
Caldari State
#5 - 2013-08-24 23:21:02 UTC
I did one tengu on my account ... something like
700 dps / 750 dps tank / 600+ speed and its killing machine :-)

on second account I did
550 dps / 750 dps tank / 700 speed + webifier + target painter
Cadius Vect
Tenth Plague of Egypt
#6 - 2013-08-25 00:15:35 UTC
Rigor catalyst rigs.

Simple solution to your problem.
Panhead4411
Rothschild's Sewage and Septic Sucking Services
The Possum Lodge
#7 - 2013-08-26 17:31:01 UTC
My only trouble with lvl 4's and frigates is in rooms like WC where i don't necessarily want to solo the entire room in my less than stable burst tank armor ship...

Is that i end up getting stuck in the pocket with 7 frigs i can't kill, who are keeping me perma scrammed. And since the AI update, the instant i launch light drones...they are getting sniped before doing any real dmg. Was stuck in one pocket for over an hour while ever so slowly picking the frigates off while slowly losing drones to the instant re-aggro.

http://blog.beyondreality.se/shift-click-does-nothing    < Unified Inventory is NOT ready...

Antony E Stark
The Tory Party
#8 - 2013-08-26 22:29:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Antony E Stark
A standard battleship will do, no need for expensive nonsense.
Light drones for the frigs and a target painter. The target painter will ensure the rats Argo you more, leaving the drones alone and the drones have a bigger sig rad to shoot at. Problem solved.

That and using the correct damage types Cool

The most I use is a t1 bs hull and t2 mods, except launchers which are t1. Hell I don't even use t2 ammo. Minimum tools required for the job = less loss if you derp or disconnect
Mike Whiite
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#9 - 2013-08-28 08:26:20 UTC
- Guided missile Precision.
- Faction Ammo
- Rigor Rigs
- Implants
-Target Painters
-Web


Secondly I'd advice to use Faction BCU's launchers aren't realy worth the price when you have max specialisation skills.
if you running missions in Hi sec the change of being ganked in a T3 Cruiser is vastly overrated outside war time.