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No more kick-out station?
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Herpes Firecrotch
Pink Sockers
#1 - 2011-11-12 11:45:02 UTC
Hello.//..

I read on the evenews that as part of requested changes that CCP is decrease session timer, increased invunerablity and all station increase dock range so no more kicking-out station (undock and die). Where can we see confirmation? I really don't like see such a thing.

Thanks
KSUDruid
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#2 - 2011-11-12 11:49:13 UTC
Herpes Firecrotch wrote:
Hello.//..

I read on the evenews


There's your problem right there
Niamo Higate
Perkone
Caldari State
#3 - 2011-11-12 12:23:39 UTC
Decreased session change timer, yes.

Increased invulnerability, No. It is still the same length as it has always been.

This will save some (not all) from station kick out since you only wait 20 instead of 30 sec before you can dock again.
Hirana Yoshida
Behavioral Affront
#4 - 2011-11-12 12:33:44 UTC
KSUDruid wrote:
Herpes Firecrotch wrote:
Hello.//..

I read on the evenews


There's your problem right there

Not empty quoting!

To OP: There is a big fat button in the top bar of this page called "Dev Blogs". Click it once in a while to get the data without the highly suspect interpretation of sites like EveNews ..
The blogs even have a link to the comment thread where the writers more often than not will help clear up any confusion that their at times poor English/communication skills may bring about.
Comy 1
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#5 - 2011-11-12 12:39:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Comy 1
Hirana Yoshida wrote:
The blogs even have a link to the comment thread where the writers more often than not will help clear up any confusion that their at times poor English/communication skills may bring about.


In all honesty, it's not really hard to understand any dev blog. Even if they would all be written by an English proffesor there would be bad people missunderstanding and raging. Partly because they are bad at reading / not understanding the game mechanics and partly because they love to rage about nothing.
Apollo Gabriel
Kill'em all. Let Bob sort'em out.
Ushra'Khan
#6 - 2011-11-12 15:09:31 UTC
I sure wish CCP would make a devblog telling us of these changes ...


http://www.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&nbid=3050

I sure wish people would read.
Always ... Never ... Forget to check your references.   Peace out Zulu! Hope you land well!
Gaia Ma'chello
Photosynth
#7 - 2011-11-12 15:27:00 UTC
What is a kick out station?
Soi Mala
Whacky Waving Inflatable Flailing Arm Tubemen
#8 - 2011-11-12 15:55:41 UTC
Herpes Firecrotch wrote:
increased invunerablity


Unfortunately this is happening everywhere in highsec, be it legal wardec shields, super obvious brightly coloured contracts with "are you super sure?" popups, recruitment scam changes, numerous changes in aggro mechanics, autopilot changes, the list is ever growing.

I thought this game was supposed to take your cookie and laugh at you?
Sakurako Kimino
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#9 - 2011-11-12 15:59:39 UTC
Apollo Gabriel wrote:
I sure wish CCP would make a devblog telling us of these changes ...


http://www.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&nbid=3050

I sure wish people would read.


omg a dev blog run for the hills its the end of eve.

then again i do like the blogs

eve is about sin

Adunh Slavy
#10 - 2011-11-12 16:01:34 UTC
Gaia Ma'chello wrote:
What is a kick out station?



That's the sort of station where you are not allowed to fornicate in public areas, usualy found in Amarrian regions.

In all seriousness, when you undock, your ship is "pushed" out, you have forward velocity when you undock. All stations in Eve do a bit of a kick these days, some more than others.

Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.  - William Pitt
rufeno
Black Frog Logistics
Red-Frog
#11 - 2011-11-12 16:05:37 UTC
Soi Mala wrote:
Herpes Firecrotch wrote:
increased invunerablity


Unfortunately this is happening everywhere in highsec, be it legal wardec shields, super obvious brightly coloured contracts with "are you super sure?" popups, recruitment scam changes, numerous changes in aggro mechanics, autopilot changes, the list is ever growing.

I thought this game was supposed to take your cookie and laugh at you?




it was, up until they realised that the kid who lost his cookie rage quited and canceled his subscription.

Soi Mala
Whacky Waving Inflatable Flailing Arm Tubemen
#12 - 2011-11-12 16:48:57 UTC
rufeno wrote:
Soi Mala wrote:
Herpes Firecrotch wrote:
increased invunerablity


Unfortunately this is happening everywhere in highsec, be it legal wardec shields, super obvious brightly coloured contracts with "are you super sure?" popups, recruitment scam changes, numerous changes in aggro mechanics, autopilot changes, the list is ever growing.

I thought this game was supposed to take your cookie and laugh at you?




it was, up until money became more important than the dream that was made a reality by the handful of original programmers.



FYP

Increase numbers, and you dilute the passion.
Blood Fart
Rock Hard Productions
#13 - 2011-11-12 17:29:06 UTC
Soi Mala wrote:
rufeno wrote:
Soi Mala wrote:
Herpes Firecrotch wrote:
increased invunerablity


Unfortunately this is happening everywhere in highsec, be it legal wardec shields, super obvious brightly coloured contracts with "are you super sure?" popups, recruitment scam changes, numerous changes in aggro mechanics, autopilot changes, the list is ever growing.

I thought this game was supposed to take your cookie and laugh at you?




it was, up until money became more important than the dream that was made a reality by the handful of original programmers.



FYP

Increase numbers, and you dilute the passion.


In an effort to increase numbers you loose your main customer base which leads to a f2p model after it's sold to another company.....how many times have we seen this now? It's the 4th time I've seen an MMO go this way......
Roosterton
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#14 - 2011-11-12 17:38:35 UTC
You could always just ctrl+space to avoid kickout without losing your invulnerability, anyway. Straight
The Offerer
Doomheim
#15 - 2011-11-12 17:55:57 UTC  |  Edited by: The Offerer
Soi Mala wrote:
rufeno wrote:
Soi Mala wrote:
Herpes Firecrotch wrote:
increased invunerablity


Unfortunately this is happening everywhere in highsec, be it legal wardec shields, super obvious brightly coloured contracts with "are you super sure?" popups, recruitment scam changes, numerous changes in aggro mechanics, autopilot changes, the list is ever growing.

I thought this game was supposed to take your cookie and laugh at you?




it was, up until money became more important than the dream that was made a reality by the handful of original programmers.



FYP

Increase numbers, and you dilute the passion.


What if my passion is blowing up those exact increased numbers?Cool

Seriously, come on. A 10 second invu window during which you can dock is not going to change much anything... except maybe docking games which is one of the dumbest if not the dumbest form... sorry, I mean a pathetic excuse for PvP that has ever existed in this game.

@OP
session change is decreased from 30 to 20 seconds
invu timer will stay the same = 30 seconds
docking ranges are not increased AFAIK, but even if they are Ctrl+SPACE will stop your invulnerable ship anyway.

The devblog explains the reasons pretty good. (if you are using evenews to get your news about what is happening in the game, the devblog entries usually have a link to expand the text and show the link to the original devblog. In the article you've mentioned here it's the "+ New Dev Blog >>" link right below the banner)
Dirk Magnum
Spearhead Endeavors
#16 - 2011-11-12 19:59:07 UTC
I'm not sure when CCP made it impossible to bump people during the undocking session change timer, but when you combine it with the change to a 20-second session duration the result is lameness. tbh Sad
You don't do so much undock bumping in nullsec, but for high sec war decs and griefing it's essential. Oh who am I kidding there won't be as much of that going on either SadSad

Looks like I jumped ship on Empire space just in time.

                      "LIVE FAST DIE." - traditional Minmatar ethos [citation needed]
Dorian Wylde
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#17 - 2011-11-12 20:56:11 UTC
Comy 1 wrote:
Hirana Yoshida wrote:
The blogs even have a link to the comment thread where the writers more often than not will help clear up any confusion that their at times poor English/communication skills may bring about.


In all honesty, it's not really hard to understand any dev blog. Even if they would all be written by an English proffesor there would be bad people missunderstanding and raging. Partly because they are bad at reading / not understanding the game mechanics and partly because they love to rage about nothing.



They also don't bother to read the whole thing.
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#18 - 2011-11-12 23:12:33 UTC
Adunh Slavy wrote:
Gaia Ma'chello wrote:
What is a kick out station?



That's the sort of station where you are not allowed to fornicate in public areas, usualy found in Amarrian regions.

In all seriousness, when you undock, your ship is "pushed" out, you have forward velocity when you undock. All stations in Eve do a bit of a kick these days, some more than others.


A kick out station is one that has a very close docking ring, where you very quickly get beyond the area where you can redock the moment your session timer is over.

Some stations, notably certain Minmatar stations, put you outside of docking range almost immediately.

If CCP wants docking games to continue, they will either make the timers (invulnerability and session change) simultaneous... or they will change game mechanics slightly to allow bumping during the invulnerability timer.

If they have decided docking games are stupid and tedious, and wish to eliminate them completely, they will leave things as they are.

I'm not casting an opinion either way at this time.

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Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
#19 - 2011-11-12 23:18:48 UTC
Soi Mala wrote:
Herpes Firecrotch wrote:
increased invunerablity


Unfortunately this is happening everywhere in highsec, be it legal wardec shields, super obvious brightly coloured contracts with "are you super sure?" popups, recruitment scam changes, numerous changes in aggro mechanics, autopilot changes, the list is ever growing.

I thought this game was supposed to take your cookie and laugh at you?




Yes its goes both ways, you have to stop being lazy when you really want to terrorize those who choose to stay in high sec. Trust me there are plenty of ways to bait them out into the open still just now it requires some cunning guile instead of brain dead button smashing.

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Soi Mala
Whacky Waving Inflatable Flailing Arm Tubemen
#20 - 2011-11-12 23:54:39 UTC
Nova Fox wrote:
Soi Mala wrote:
Herpes Firecrotch wrote:
increased invunerablity


Unfortunately this is happening everywhere in highsec, be it legal wardec shields, super obvious brightly coloured contracts with "are you super sure?" popups, recruitment scam changes, numerous changes in aggro mechanics, autopilot changes, the list is ever growing.

I thought this game was supposed to take your cookie and laugh at you?




Yes its goes both ways, you have to stop being lazy when you really want to terrorize those who choose to stay in high sec. Trust me there are plenty of ways to bait them out into the open still just now it requires some cunning guile instead of brain dead button smashing.


Because life in highsec contains many things other than brain dead button mashing.
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