EVE General Discussion

I'm going to respond to this as methodical and unbiased as I can. I'm sure you've at least familiarized yourself with the basic lore of New Eden. This alone should give you a clue as to the harsh realities of Eve as a game. Through bitter struggle humanity survived. Power and Control are simply means to continue to survive.

Eve is a harsh universe. Either you adapt, accept the reality and overcome or you fade into nothingness like so many. As a Pirate I can tell you you will lose many pods, many ships, and have many unfortunate losses. This is true for many players and simply a fact you must accept.

High Sec (imo) is more dangerous than Low Sec and Null combined. High Sec has gankers (like myself), scammers, mercs, and those simply who war dec weaker alliances and corps (like yours) for cheap kills. Do not rely upon an NPC to play the game for you.

Separate local chat from the rest of your windows. Always have Direction Scanner up and running. Be aligned out. Have your ship tanked against gankers if you mine or move freight. Just being self aware is half the battle.

I love how some cannot differentiate between a sandbox game and RL. To suggest someone would slap their child, if not for podding someone a few times, is utterly ridiculous. Much like suggesting if people didn't play chess, they would murder their heads of state.

Highsec is FAR more dangerous than nullsec. Good reasons. #1 people in highsec use the cops as a tool to kill people. #2 In nullsec you know that anyone you see in a system that is blue to you wont gank you. Highsec is packed to the gills with strangers that you don't know from Joe's dog. #3 Nullsec people have to fight for what they have and what they believe in. In highsec there is nothing to fight for. #4 Nullsec life is hard and stupid people dont last long. I have seen stupid people try moving to nullsec and run home screaming when they figure out there is no one to protect them except their own wits. The logistics to run an empire are astoundingly complex. Highsec people tend to be short sighted and have small goals. Whole diffferent mentality on the frontier. You wont see 3000 people working towards a single goal in highsec like you will in nullsec. #5 concord kills easily ten times as many innocents in a single day as Goonswarm kills in a month. (Well maybe not this month).

Sometimes I poke around the southern borders of goonspace and see some desperate people nibbling at asteroids in the 0.2 space just beyond the caldari border. I'll fly to them and stay cloaked in my bomber. They inevitably panic and try to run for safespots in their silly retrievers. I could easily kill them with a single bomb, but I don't. I just find it both sad and amusing that some of the people who proport to do so well in highsec are squatting on our lawn nibbling at rocks that I wouldn't even give a passing glance out in the triangle.

My point being, if all you have seen is the scrabbling, petty, dimwitted Darwin's buffet of people who populate blue systems and call that eve, you haven't even tried really playing eve yet and I feel genuinely sorry for you. I do not know what your reasons are for always sticking to secure space, but whatever they may be, you're really missing out. We're the heroes. We're the ones who make the news. We're the ones with big goals. Eve is OUT THERE. Not in friggin empire.

Simple people see things in terms of good and evil. The hero always wore a white hat and the villain wears a black hat. In the real world, the guy in the white hat is just as likely to remove your spleen with a butter knife. My mom saw The Watchmen and was horrified, not at the gore, but at the concept that superheroes were less than perfect ideals. I think this mentality is where the good guys/bad guys way of thinking comes from. In reality, we're all bad guys to someone.

don't worry, I'm cleaning up this mess... eve is not too harsh, its just some neglected kids, searching for attention... I'm bringing education to them every day ... sometimes with words, sometimes with torpedos

Not quite sure how you made the jump to "good and evil". This isn't about good and evil, but about what makes a villain an interesting or uninteresting character. To stay with watchman, you can debate endlessly where Rohrschach is positioned on a sliding grey morality scale, but few would argue the statement that his complex motivations make him a more interesting character than a simple street mugger...

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I liked Rorschach because of all the f-ed up people in the cast, the psychopathic murderer was the only one, in the end, who had not lost his humanity. The rest of them had become just as detached as Dr Manhattan.

Humanity doesn't mean being good. It means being human.

Nope. Vader's methods qualifiy him as a villain.

This thread desperately needs another milquetoast statement from the OP.
Please, don't keep those tears to yourself...