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RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#21 - 2013-08-22 15:19:12 UTC
Forum Damsel wrote:
I have been timing (with a stop watch) the differance between 'non-aligned' and 'aligned' warping with my retriever. I have not found more than a second and a half differance.

I consider that well within the margin of error when the times measured are a minimum of 16 seconds.

I align each time I mine, anyway.



If you're actually aligned, you will warp instantly. You are in no way aligned if you're not moving.

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Xytheus Skor
Venture Corporation
#22 - 2013-08-22 15:33:18 UTC
Hit Ctrl + Space while moving. Once you're aligned, that is.
Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#23 - 2013-08-22 16:04:09 UTC
Mr Epeen wrote:
The only thing between you being in your ship and being in a pod when it comes to ganks is effective hit points.

We usually aim to send people back to the station pretty quick. Miners do love to sit around in their billion isk clones.

Mr Epeen wrote:
Edit 2: Gank Tank

In a .6, 7 T1 catas, maybe 8.
Overkilled something much like this in a .7 while the miner had local logi, DPS cover and 3 sets of concord on grid with 16.

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Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#24 - 2013-08-22 16:25:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Mr Epeen
Lucas Kell wrote:
Mr Epeen wrote:
The only thing between you being in your ship and being in a pod when it comes to ganks is effective hit points.

We usually aim to send people back to the station pretty quick. Miners do love to sit around in their billion isk clones.

Mr Epeen wrote:
Edit 2: Gank Tank

In a .6, 7 T1 catas, maybe 8.
Overkilled something much like this in a .7 while the miner had local logi, DPS cover and 3 sets of concord on grid with 16.


If you are going to be that dedicated to your craft, then I salute you and hope I don't bump into you guys. But lets face it. 99% of time is two or three yahoos that don't even scan you. They just jump in, see a lone Mack and attack. That ends up with them sitting around in their pods looking stupid while I'm at half shields trying to get a lock on them before they bolt.

That's what I love about this game. There's no sure thing. I'm fully prepared to lose my ship every time I undock. but I'm sure as heck going to do everything I can to prevent it.

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Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
#25 - 2013-08-23 00:09:20 UTC
Sin Pew wrote:
Forum Damsel wrote:
I have been timing (with a stop watch) the differance between 'non-aligned' and 'aligned' warping with my retriever. I have not found more than a second and a half differance.
Surely you're doing it wrong or you didn't understand what aligning means.


Or you are misinterpreting what Forum Damsel means by putting 'aligned' in quotes like that :)

Forum Damsel is obviously referring to the time it takes a retriever to get into warp from a standing start when simply facing a random direction or being "passively aligned," and has thus proven their possession of a functioning brain and understanding of the scientific method.

Form a hypothesis, devise an experiment to test this hypothesis, perform the experiment, compare the results to the hypothesis, adjust or discard the hypothesis as the facts dictate. In this case the hypothesis of "passive alignment" is trivially falsifiable.

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Sin Pew
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#26 - 2013-08-23 06:55:21 UTC
Mara Rinn wrote:
Sin Pew wrote:
Forum Damsel wrote:
I have been timing (with a stop watch) the differance between 'non-aligned' and 'aligned' warping with my retriever. I have not found more than a second and a half differance.
Surely you're doing it wrong or you didn't understand what aligning means.


Or you are misinterpreting what Forum Damsel means by putting 'aligned' in quotes like that :)

Forum Damsel is obviously referring to the time it takes a retriever to get into warp from a standing start when simply facing a random direction or being "passively aligned," and has thus proven their possession of a functioning brain and understanding of the scientific method.

Form a hypothesis, devise an experiment to test this hypothesis, perform the experiment, compare the results to the hypothesis, adjust or discard the hypothesis as the facts dictate. In this case the hypothesis of "passive alignment" is trivially falsifiable.

Good point, part of the context evaded me.

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Forum Damsel
Doomheim
#27 - 2013-08-23 06:56:09 UTC
Mara Rinn wrote:
Sin Pew wrote:
Forum Damsel wrote:
I have been timing (with a stop watch) the differance between 'non-aligned' and 'aligned' warping with my retriever. I have not found more than a second and a half differance.
Surely you're doing it wrong or you didn't understand what aligning means.


Or you are misinterpreting what Forum Damsel means by putting 'aligned' in quotes like that :)

Forum Damsel is obviously referring to the time it takes a retriever to get into warp from a standing start when simply facing a random direction or being "passively aligned," and has thus proven their possession of a functioning brain and understanding of the scientific method.

Form a hypothesis, devise an experiment to test this hypothesis, perform the experiment, compare the results to the hypothesis, adjust or discard the hypothesis as the facts dictate. In this case the hypothesis of "passive alignment" is trivially falsifiable.



Thank you. You said it better than I did. Aligning to your destination when at a stand-still (passive alignment) is literally worthless. I do it anyway.
Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
#28 - 2013-08-23 07:02:24 UTC
Forum Damsel wrote:
Thank you. You said it better than I did. Aligning to your destination when at a stand-still (passive alignment) is literally worthless. I do it anyway.


Me too! Not necessarily aligning to celestials, but aligning to something along with the rest of the fleet. The same way I like my pens all pointing to the wall, parallel to each other. It just looks right.

It also annoys me that when I tell three ships to orbit another, there's always one that has to go the other way.

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lollerwaffle
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#29 - 2013-08-23 07:57:06 UTC
Xytheus Skor wrote:
Hit Ctrl + Space while moving. Once you're aligned, that is.

After multiple posters telling the OP that passive aligning is a myth, and that if you're not moving you're not aligned, you post this.

Literally r-tarded. Literally.
Sin Pew
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#30 - 2013-08-23 07:59:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Sin Pew
We all have our OCDs, one of my pet-peeves, is the impossibility to repackage stuff in a corporate hangar and thus not being able to stack it properly, it *really* irks me.

Anyway, when you keep a ship idle in space for a moment, you notice that it will end up spinning around to point in a totally different direction. I noticed it while flying stealth bombers. I was waiting for a target to jump back through a wormhole, I was level with it according to the tactical map, I had approached and stopped just 30km from it, after 20min or so, he jumped in, I uncloak and choked on my soda when I saw my bomb flying at a 45° angle from the WH while I enter warp... utter fail Sad

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