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The Great Ice Mining Interdiction: Not so Great

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Xavier Perez
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#401 - 2013-08-22 17:01:03 UTC
Scatim Helicon wrote:
Just confirming that this is a 20 page thread about how insignificant and unworthy of attention Goons are.


Seems so, Scatim. Well we best get back to ice miner mining.
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#402 - 2013-08-22 17:16:20 UTC
Xavier Perez wrote:
Scatim Helicon wrote:
Just confirming that this is a 20 page thread about how insignificant and unworthy of attention Goons are.


Seems so, Scatim. Well we best get back to ice miner mining.


Ice is the frozen tears of the ganked, the more they cry, the more ice there is for everyone.

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

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Captain Tardbar
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#403 - 2013-08-22 17:43:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Captain Tardbar
I'm sitting here talking to someone on voice coms hunting goons with public kill rights. Also there are defender fleets now in Osmon with Blackbirds and other ECM stuff. Not sure on their effectiveness.

Looking to talk on VOIP with other EVE players? Are you new and need help with EVE (welfare) or looking for advice? Looking for adversarial debate with angry people?

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Captain Tardbar
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#404 - 2013-08-22 17:49:58 UTC
Lugia3 wrote:
< See's a single T1 barge going uninterrupted for 2 hours.
< Announces a glorious victory over the Ice Interdiction.


The belts are getting mined out several times a day just as before the interdiction. An aquaintence of mine got about 6 Orca fulls yesterday.

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baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#405 - 2013-08-22 17:51:42 UTC
Captain Tardbar wrote:
An aquaintence of mine got about 6 Orca fulls yesterday.


Oddly enough so did we.
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#406 - 2013-08-22 17:55:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
Captain Tardbar wrote:
I'm sitting here talking to someone on voice coms hunting goons with public kill rights. Also there are defender fleets now in Osmon with Blackbirds and other ECM stuff. Not sure on their effectiveness.

All is grist for the mill.

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

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Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#407 - 2013-08-22 17:56:07 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Captain Tardbar wrote:
An aquaintence of mine got about 6 Orca fulls yesterday.


Oddly enough so did we.


And that does not include the amount that just went away because the loot fairy said no.
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#408 - 2013-08-22 18:01:12 UTC
Frostys Virpio wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
Captain Tardbar wrote:
An aquaintence of mine got about 6 Orca fulls yesterday.


Oddly enough so did we.


And that does not include the amount that just went away because the loot fairy said no.

The loot fairy is a greedy bugger.

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

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S Byerley
The Manhattan Engineer District
#409 - 2013-08-22 19:19:53 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Quote:
I accept no responsibility to fix your equation for you just because I pointed out a place where it was wrong and explained why.
…and then immediately contradicted yourself.


But I didn't contradict myself? You evidently just lack the requisite background knowledge (I blame the school system).

So, is your contention that the original formula was correct? I don't understand why you won't answer a very simple question. Well, I do, but you should answer it anyway.
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#410 - 2013-08-22 19:47:10 UTC
S Byerley wrote:
Tippia wrote:
Quote:
I accept no responsibility to fix your equation for you just because I pointed out a place where it was wrong and explained why.
…and then immediately contradicted yourself.


But I didn't contradict myself? You evidently just lack the requisite background knowledge (I blame the school system).

So, is your contention that the original formula was correct? I don't understand why you won't answer a very simple question. Well, I do, but you should answer it anyway.

Your posting history vs Tippia's posting history, Tippia comes out on top because he actually thinks before he posts.

I've seen various posts by yourself, on various topics, where you desperately strive to appear to know what you're talking about, when in fact anybody with even a basic understanding of the subject can see that you actually know very little or nothing at all, case in point your posts in this thread, and the hilarity of reading your crap about data mining.

In short you're a pontificating idiot, have you considered a career in politics?

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#411 - 2013-08-22 21:39:25 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Xavier Perez wrote:
Scatim Helicon wrote:
Just confirming that this is a 20 page thread about how insignificant and unworthy of attention Goons are.

Seems so, Scatim. Well we best get back to ice miner mining.

Ice is the frozen tears of the ganked, the more they cry, the more ice there is for everyone.

Is that where the new ice anoms come from after they are depleted?

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#412 - 2013-08-22 21:42:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
Alavaria Fera wrote:

Is that where the new ice anoms come from after they are depleted?

Yep, the new spawns are collected from the tears of those who get ganked or failed to get to the previous spawn before the multibox / fleet operations

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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#413 - 2013-08-22 21:45:08 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Alavaria Fera wrote:

Is that where the new ice anoms come from after they are depleted?

Yep, the new spawns are collected from the tears of those who get ganked or failed to get to the previous spawn before the multibox / fleet operations

That's why it takes 4 hours ! Cool. Because EVE is harsh and cold, the tears collect and freeze. Interesting.

This means that people in Caldari ice space cry tears with a lot of nitrogen.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
S Byerley
The Manhattan Engineer District
#414 - 2013-08-22 22:53:02 UTC  |  Edited by: S Byerley
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Your posting history vs Tippia's posting history, Tippia comes out on top


So far she's been wrong in every objective fight she's committed to; including but not limited to:

past forum events, the formal definition of risk, and compound probability of dependent events

All of which were explained and appropriately cited. I'm not sure what your definition of "comes out on top" is, but it doesn't seem particularly useful. Is it a popularity thing? I'll happily concede popularity.

Quote:
I've seen various posts by yourself, on various topics, where you desperately strive to appear to know what you're talking about, when in fact anybody with even a basic understanding of the subject can see that you actually know very little or nothing at all, case in point your posts in this thread, and the hilarity of reading your crap about data mining.


You'd be surprised how hard it is to get hostile-forum goers to understand technical topics you know well, but which rely on years of foundational knowledge. If it comes off sounding boastful, I apologize.

Also, rofl @ "pretty much requires quantum computing"
Georgina Parmala
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#415 - 2013-08-22 22:54:43 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:

That's why it takes 4 hours ! Cool. Because EVE is harsh and cold, the tears collect and freeze. Interesting.

This means that people in Caldari ice space cry tears with a lot of nitrogen.

More like the space is rich with nitrogen clouds. Refining it from frozen tears is simply the most effective means of gathering it into your cargo hold in large volumes.

Science and Trade Institute [STI] is an NPC entity and as such my views do not represent those of the entity or any of its members

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S Byerley
The Manhattan Engineer District
#416 - 2013-08-22 22:56:51 UTC
Tippia wrote:
S Byerley wrote:
Do you admit that it's wrong then?
I'm merely trying to make you answer a very simple question: how would you write the two in order to control for the dependence of p(stolen)?


Tell you what; if you admit that your original equation was wrong, I'll take time out of my busy schedule to fix it for you. I mean, you wouldn't want me to waste time on an expectation calculation that's correct would you?

Tippia wrote:
Quote:
I pointed out a place where it was wrong and explained why.
…and then immediately contradicted yourself.


I didn't though?
MeestaPenni
Mercantile and Stuff
#417 - 2013-08-22 23:30:08 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
pontificating idiot


Is someone looking for me?

I am not Prencleeve Grothsmore.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#418 - 2013-08-22 23:30:19 UTC
Georgina Parmala wrote:
Alavaria Fera wrote:

That's why it takes 4 hours ! Cool. Because EVE is harsh and cold, the tears collect and freeze. Interesting.

This means that people in Caldari ice space cry tears with a lot of nitrogen.

More like the space is rich with nitrogen clouds. Refining it from frozen tears is simply the most effective means of gathering it into your cargo hold in large volumes.

Extremely valuable clouds, you say...

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#419 - 2013-08-22 23:35:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
S Byerley wrote:
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Your posting history vs Tippia's posting history, Tippia comes out on top


So far she's been wrong in every objective fight she's committed to; including but not limited to:

past forum events, the formal definition of risk, and compound probability of dependent events

All of which were explained and appropriately cited. I'm not sure what your definition of "comes out on top" is, but it doesn't seem particularly useful. Is it a popularity thing? I'll happily concede popularity.

Quote:
I've seen various posts by yourself, on various topics, where you desperately strive to appear to know what you're talking about, when in fact anybody with even a basic understanding of the subject can see that you actually know very little or nothing at all, case in point your posts in this thread, and the hilarity of reading your crap about data mining.


You'd be surprised how hard it is to get hostile-forum goers to understand technical topics you know well, but which rely on years of foundational knowledge. If it comes off sounding boastful, I apologize.

Also, rofl @ "pretty much requires quantum computing"

Firstly Tippia is male.
Secondly we've yet to see evidence that you're familiar with the technical subjects that you post about, most of what you've posted in the past can be pulled from wikipedia or google with little or no effort.

If you could give people an idea of your background and knowledge, instead of insisting that they're wrong because you say so, you may find more people will take what you say seriously. As it is you come across as an arrogant know it all who can't or won't back up anything you say. Tippia at least provides evidence to back up his claims.

I have a specialist technical background myself, and I can talk to people about it without sounding boastful or insulting. They might not actually understand what I'm talking about in detail, but I can get the basics across. It's this thing called social skills, you need to work on them.

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#420 - 2013-08-22 23:38:56 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
this thing called social skills

Not on my EVE Online General Discussion.

Only trolling skillZ.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?