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I have achieved middle class in Eve
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Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
#41 - 2013-08-21 14:51:54 UTC
Like many people in the lower classes, I'm counting on the lotto* and scratchers** to get me into the upper class.

*BIG Lottery
**Somer Blink
Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#42 - 2013-08-21 14:54:00 UTC
*Look at wallet*

*Look at total assets*

*weep in a corner*
Lord 'Vulcan' Raven
Vulcan Logistics
#43 - 2013-08-21 15:20:38 UTC
I'm currently sitting on 30 bil and 24 plex

What's more is I don't even play these days but make about a years game time every month.

Really need to start thinking of things to spend the money on...
Large Collidable Object
morons.
#44 - 2013-08-21 15:52:04 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Ioci wrote:
Average guy has 2 billion.
Is it even that much?
Last I saw a figure on it, it was in the mid-hundreds, but that was a year or two ago and I suppose it should be higher by now.

e: …or maybe that was just wallet, rather than total assets.



Iirc, it was in a quite old QEN and only wallet, not including assets and I'm not even sure if it was per character, per account or per player.

Depending on what it is, 2 bill may be very little or quite a bit.

As a player and including assets, I reach the 100 bill mark quite easily, but excluding assets and calculating the mean wallet accross all my characters, including cyno alts and even noob-ship scouts, it would be around 1.5- 2 bill/character (I tend to keep my isk in the market/assets).
You know... [morons.](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gjOx65yD5A)
Septium Stern Unun
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#45 - 2013-08-21 15:56:42 UTC
*Throws hands up in air*

That's it! I give up, I concede defeat. I struggled to get 200 million, but 100 billion? Uhh, check please?
Vince Snetterton
#46 - 2013-08-21 16:01:32 UTC
Septium Stern Unun wrote:
*Throws hands up in air*

That's it! I give up, I concede defeat. I struggled to get 200 million, but 100 billion? Uhh, check please?


You are aware that many many players have 100 billion sitting idled, in a Titan, parked in an account that is inactive?
I have run with players that when the market turns the way they expected, they make 100 billion in a DAY. Those days are very rare, but they happen.
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#47 - 2013-08-21 16:06:47 UTC
If you actually have 100b sitting in your wallet doing nothing and that's the majority of your wealth you're doing something wrong

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
ngaly
Doomheim
#48 - 2013-08-21 16:10:52 UTC
I think lower middleclass is actually an appropriate description. Owning 100b ISK in EVE feels like owning 100k US Dollars in real life (of course it doesn’t have the same value). 100b ISK will buy you a titan. 100k USD will buy you a Porsche. Owning 1 trillion ISK feels like owning 1 million USD. There are 10 million USD millionaires (0.15% of the world population). There are 400k EVE accounts and probably 200k actual EVE players. 0.15% of 200k is 300. Having 300 Trillionaires in EVE feels about right. 1 million USD will put you into the upper middleclass in real life. Hence 1 trillion puts you into the upper middleclass of EVE. There are 1000 USD billionaires or 0.000014% of the world population. 0.000014% of 200k EVE players is much less than 1 player. Owning 1 billion USD is maybe like owning 1 quadrillion ISK in EVE. I’m sure no one owns that much in EVE yet. In EVE no player is on the level of a real life billionaire. However, I guess maybe 1 – 3 players might own several dozen trillion ISK. I guess those players can consider themselves super-rich and those who own more than 5 trillion ISK can consider themselves rich. (I'm talking about NAV and not only about money assets.)
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
#49 - 2013-08-21 16:35:01 UTC
Tron 3K wrote:
Snagletooth Johnson wrote:
ShahFluffers wrote:
I'm space poor... spare a billion and I'll go blow people up in your name!

I misread that and really,really thought it said something...else Shocked

Especially with that name Fluffers?!

Now you know what I have to do to make a buck!!Sad

Have pity and fund a poor outlaw!

How did you Veterans start?
Tron 3K
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#50 - 2013-08-21 16:38:44 UTC
Lord 'Vulcan' Raven wrote:
I'm currently sitting on 30 bil and 24 plex

What's more is I don't even play these days but make about a years game time every month.

Really need to start thinking of things to spend the money on...

You can be the sugar daddy to my 4 accounts with those plex :p
Louise Beethoven
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#51 - 2013-08-21 16:46:16 UTC
Am guessing you don't do much else but play Eve. One to tell the grandkids Ugh
Nam Dnilb
Universal Frog
#52 - 2013-08-21 16:49:16 UTC
Victoria Sin wrote:
Zappity wrote:
Tippia wrote:
You're off by about three orders of magnitude.


So I'm guessing Tippia doesn't understand what an order of magnitude is. Or does she seriously think that 100 trillion is middle class?


Tippia is the forum's resident contrarian.


Indeed. They should put in something into game like "Tippia's modified pedestal of objection" (infinite uses).
Ioci
Bad Girl Posse
#53 - 2013-08-21 18:12:59 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Ioci wrote:
Average guy has 2 billion.
Is it even that much?
Last I saw a figure on it, it was in the mid-hundreds, but that was a year or two ago and I suppose it should be higher by now.

e: …or maybe that was just wallet, rather than total assets.


For years it was 500 mill give or take. Rebalanced ships and stuff in the last year has led me to liquidate stuff I wasn't using and just through inflation I was able to sell stuff at 400% what I paid. From Meta 4 guns to hulls to whatever. My game habits changed too though. I don't lose as much ISK now as I did way back when. Most PvP in EVE is about setting snares and as the population gets older and wiser those snares stop working.

R.I.P. Vile Rat
SKINE DMZ
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#54 - 2013-08-21 20:52:38 UTC
Why not celebrate and send everyone in this thread 100 million ISK?

I disagree
Beekeeper Bob
Beekeepers Anonymous
#55 - 2013-08-21 21:11:07 UTC
Solstice Project wrote:
So you spent years grinding and have amassed 100 billion ISK,
which are pointless, because you're not spending them.

When are you starting to actually play?


Read closer, he says Total asset value, not 100 bil isk in the wallet...Lol

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Bagrat Skalski
Koinuun Kotei
#56 - 2013-08-21 21:59:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Bagrat Skalski
I have fun flying in orca and mining veldspar using drones. :P

Also using it to run anomalies and salvage wrecks, I have finally found my destiny in EVE.

Custom ship skins, character creator style "repaint". Bring it!
Praetor Meles
Black Mount Industrial
Breakpoint.
#57 - 2013-08-21 22:51:13 UTC
In before "100bn is somehow relevant" quip.

Also, confirming: 100bn is somehow relevant

[insert random rubbish that irritates you personally] is further evidence that Eve is dying/thriving*

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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#58 - 2013-08-21 23:32:31 UTC
In 7 years I never had more than 500 million ISK at one time.

Actual worth from total assets is another story but I'm too lazy to sell all that stuff.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!
ACE McFACE
Dirt 'n' Glitter
Local Is Primary
#59 - 2013-08-22 01:49:21 UTC
I hate it when people say how poor they are, then tell me they "only have 100b" partially because I wish I had that kind of money. But mainly because that's not poor.

Now, more than ever, we need a dislike button.
Jake Warbird
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#60 - 2013-08-22 01:58:02 UTC
Wish I was that sorta middle-class. Grumble.

Sugar Von MurdererTits : Jake Warbird gets my vote for most intriguing and attractive male character in Eve.