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So, I want to gank

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Jumfat Kohlah
Dark Sacred Night
#1 - 2013-08-21 13:29:28 UTC
the gankers

Getting annoyed that gankers from Code and NO came come into a hi-sec system, flashing red as they are -7 to -10 and happily gank some industrialists.
I don't really think they understand that without these members of the community, ore would not be mined which affects ships/ammo not be built and they would suffer because of it because of increased prices.

So I would like to take action.

Don't want isk - got plenty of that, I want ship fits for frig/cruises that would allow me to gank the gankers. Any suggestion on fits?
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2013-08-21 13:41:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Solstice Project
Jumfat Kohlah wrote:
the gankers

Getting annoyed that gankers from Code and NO came come into a hi-sec system, flashing red as they are -7 to -10 and happily gank some industrialists.
I don't really think they understand that without these members of the community, ore would not be mined which affects ships/ammo not be built and they would suffer because of it because of increased prices.

So I would like to take action.

Don't want isk - got plenty of that, I want ship fits for frig/cruises that would allow me to gank the gankers. Any suggestion on fits?

Hilarious.

Not that you wanna gank gankers... that's great,
but concentrating on those worth it makes more sense.

Frigates at gates, scanning ships or the Tornados next to them,
or their haulers.

Or interrupt the squads of catalysts that try to gank freighters,
using long range high rof turrets.

Your argument about the miners is invalid. If the morons who can't tank their ships would leave,
it'd not only make the proper miners (those who do) happier, but if prices rose,
others would create mining alts and jump in.

Then we'd see a drop of miners being ganked,
because more mining people then actually knew how to play
and don't afk or sit around in space without tank.
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2013-08-21 13:43:10 UTC
Also... if you lack ability to figure out fittings for yourself,
they'll have a great time laughing about you when you keep failing.
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#4 - 2013-08-21 14:00:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
Jumfat Kohlah wrote:
the gankers

Getting annoyed that gankers from Code and NO came come into a hi-sec system, flashing red as they are -7 to -10 and happily gank some industrialists.
I don't really think they understand that without these members of the community, ore would not be mined which affects ships/ammo not be built and they would suffer because of it because of increased prices.

So I would like to take action.

Don't want isk - got plenty of that, I want ship fits for frig/cruises that would allow me to gank the gankers. Any suggestion on fits?

I don't think that you understand that without those members of the community sacrificing their ships and security status, there wouldn't be as many opportunities for those miners and industrialists to sell replacement goods to those that have been affected.

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Abyss Azizora
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#5 - 2013-08-21 14:01:11 UTC
The most popular (and effective) ships for ganking are catalysts and tornados. The fits themselves are very simple, highest damage guns, and all lowslots using damage multipliers for the type of guns being used, mid slots are either empty or sometimes make use of tracking computers.

Personally I prefer to use a logi to **** off gankers, since concord does the mopping up anyway, and the gankers gain nothing. It's been doing wonders on the Goons and their ice interdiction, hell the miners usually pay me after the gank fails. It has it's risks and can get you flagged, but damn is it funny to see the would-be ganked miner smacktalking them in local.

If you plan to gank gankers, it's surprisingly easy, since they never tank their ships. Just keep in mind they will have killrights on you unless they are suspect/criminal.
Alice Saki
Nocturnal Romance
Cynosural Field Theory.
#6 - 2013-08-21 14:01:41 UTC
Lets Gank the Ganker that is Ganking... While Concord Ganks them.

FREEZE! Drop the LIKES AND WALK AWAY! - Currenly rebuilding gaming machine, I will Return.

Camper101
State War Academy
Caldari State
#7 - 2013-08-21 14:11:36 UTC
Alice Saki wrote:
Lets Gank the Ganker that is Ganking... While Concord Ganks them.



Gankception.

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Jumfat Kohlah
Dark Sacred Night
#8 - 2013-08-21 14:58:18 UTC
Thank you Abyss, the only one that has posted constructive and pertinent feed back. It reminds me why I rarely post stuff on here
I Love Boobies
All Hail Boobies
#9 - 2013-08-21 15:01:48 UTC
You won't have to gank them. You can willfully engage them if they are flashy bad guys. If they are just using gank ships, they won't have much of a tank most likely since they are fitted for Alpha. So yeah, shouldn't be too difficult. Just get some buddies, tackle, and have fun.
Drone 16
Holy Horde
#10 - 2013-08-21 15:10:14 UTC
I have seen an upsurge of douchegankery , I mean skilled pvp, in teosenude and gelfiven, they are pretty lazy about it as well, might get some easy kills there.

You can pop them on gates or in the ice belts.

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Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#11 - 2013-08-21 15:11:47 UTC
let's blow up suicide gankers whenever they get a GCC

that'll show them

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virm pasuul
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#12 - 2013-08-21 15:38:45 UTC
I hear bombers are the best anti-gank. As they land on the miners you bomb them and kill them before they kill the miners.
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#13 - 2013-08-21 15:41:30 UTC
Jumfat Kohlah wrote:
Thank you Abyss, the only one that has posted constructive and pertinent feed back. It reminds me why I rarely post stuff on here



Welp, when you post such silliness as "without these members of the community, ore would not be mined", nobody is even gonna really begin to take you seriously.

You are just weirdly assuming and practically stating, that Null Alliances do not ever mine at all for any reason.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882

virm pasuul
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#14 - 2013-08-21 15:43:16 UTC
What would all the miners do with all the ore and minerals if nothing blew up?
Alice Saki
Nocturnal Romance
Cynosural Field Theory.
#15 - 2013-08-21 15:44:35 UTC
Jumfat Kohlah wrote:
Thank you Abyss, the only one that has posted constructive and pertinent feed back. It reminds me why I rarely post stuff on here



Don't Post Stupid Questions then.

FREEZE! Drop the LIKES AND WALK AWAY! - Currenly rebuilding gaming machine, I will Return.

Azami Nevinyrall
172.0.0.1
#16 - 2013-08-21 16:01:08 UTC
If the Miners actually tank their ****, then they won't explode as easily...

Then I'd need a new hobby in EVE...

...

Jumfat Kohlah
Dark Sacred Night
#17 - 2013-08-21 16:03:27 UTC
How is the question "Any suggestion on fits" in any way stupid as that was the only question I asked.

Plastic Psycho
Necro-Economics
#18 - 2013-08-21 16:11:06 UTC
Abyss Azizora wrote:

If you plan to gank gankers, it's surprisingly easy, since they never tank their ships. Just keep in mind they will have killrights on you unless they are suspect/criminal.

This.^

The real question you're facing is whether or not you've got the reflexes. Gankers are used to rapid response, and they know where their targets are. You won't know when they're coming, or who their target is, so you're going to need superior reflexes and good intelligence. And a lot of patience. If you try to pre-empt them, you give gankers kill rights on you - Hilarity *will* ensue. You may even get Concordokken yourself, which is a bit humiliating (have done that my own self; I know whereof I speak). If you wait until they're flashy, you've got bare seconds in which to react before concord shows up to spoil your fun.

The good news is that a properly-fit Insta-locking boat with long-range weapons - even a frigate - can pop a gankalyst with ease. *If* you get there before Concordokken happens. Maybe you can try to pop their pods - If you're fast enough, and if they're slow enough or dumb enough to give you a chance to engage or scan them down. Don't count on it.

E-2C Hawkeye
HOW to PEG SAFETY
#19 - 2013-08-21 16:12:58 UTC
Solstice Project wrote:
Jumfat Kohlah wrote:
the gankers

Getting annoyed that gankers from Code and NO came come into a hi-sec system, flashing red as they are -7 to -10 and happily gank some industrialists.
I don't really think they understand that without these members of the community, ore would not be mined which affects ships/ammo not be built and they would suffer because of it because of increased prices.

So I would like to take action.

Don't want isk - got plenty of that, I want ship fits for frig/cruises that would allow me to gank the gankers. Any suggestion on fits?

Hilarious.

Not that you wanna gank gankers... that's great,
but concentrating on those worth it makes more sense.

Frigates at gates, scanning ships or the Tornados next to them,
or their haulers.

Or interrupt the squads of catalysts that try to gank freighters,
using long range high rof turrets.

Your argument about the miners is invalid. If the morons who can't tank their ships would leave,
it'd not only make the proper miners (those who do) happier, but if prices rose,
others would create mining alts and jump in.

Then we'd see a drop of miners being ganked,
because more mining people then actually knew how to play
and don't afk or sit around in space without tank.

I like the morons that cant get that it doesnt matter what you tank when they bring 30 destroyers.
Malcolm Shinhwa
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#20 - 2013-08-21 16:15:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Malcolm Shinhwa
Jumfat KohlahI wrote:
don't really think they understand that without these members of the community, ore would not be mined which affects ships/ammo not be built and they would suffer because of it because of increased prices.


We understand that. Which is why we are helping to rid Eve of bots and pilots who wish they were bots. So your minerals will be worth more. The primary way we have to distinguish between bots and active pilots is permits. You can send me your 10mil isk for a one year permit if you like.

You can choose to side with the rebels, an unfortunate decision, but one many make ... for a time. If so I think the best method is to sit in the belt/anom near some miners in whatever ship you have for running L4s or incursions waiting for some gankers to come along to attack the miners. Then you get 'em instead!

[i]"The purpose of fighting is to win. There is no possible victory in defense. The sword is more important than the shield and skill is more important than either. The final weapon is the brain. All else is supplemental[/i]."

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