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What do you think the next expansion will be about?

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Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
#61 - 2013-08-20 08:02:59 UTC
The last expansion was Wormholes and t3's.

I can only imagine if we ever got another expansion it would be superwormholes and t4's.

The winter patch should have at least one gamebreaking imbalance as usual.

Maybe they will give the Dominix another buff. God knows it needs it.

internet spaceships

are serious business sir.

and don't forget it
Mirime Nolwe
Mantra of Pain
#62 - 2013-08-20 09:04:35 UTC
Sura Sadiva wrote:
Flamespar wrote:
What do you think the next expansion will be about?



+1% here, -1% there and some new texture.




This mostly sums it up. This game it is in a stagnant mode for some years now. We just haven't any new thing to do, it's like a mouse in a wheel running and running over and over again without any purpose.

Soporo
#63 - 2013-08-20 10:59:14 UTC
I dunno exactly but there's usually some kind of overt or covert Caldari nerf every expansion or two that can be counted on.

Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats. - H.L. Mencken
dexington
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#64 - 2013-08-20 11:19:33 UTC
The next expansion will be a quest to kill the evil space dragon.

I'm a relatively respectable citizen. Multiple felon perhaps, but certainly not dangerous.
Flamespar
WarRavens
#65 - 2013-08-20 11:35:32 UTC
Does anyone know if there is going to be an announcement made at Gamescon
Dragon Outlaw
Rogue Fleet
#66 - 2013-08-20 11:36:37 UTC
Whatever its gona be, do not put your expectations to high. This way, you`ll not be to disappointed.
Elric Cole
#67 - 2013-08-20 12:05:50 UTC
Mirime Nolwe wrote:
Sura Sadiva wrote:
Flamespar wrote:
What do you think the next expansion will be about?



+1% here, -1% there and some new texture.




This mostly sums it up. This game it is in a stagnant mode for some years now. We just haven't any new thing to do, it's like a mouse in a wheel running and running over and over again without any purpose.




Agreed! And I think many new(er) players quickly come to realise that there hasn't been any significant additions, in terms of new content, for quite some time; more +1 and -1 as stated above with the added bit and bob here and there...

So, how about a highly sophisticated, but very reclusive, alien(npc) race in new yet undiscovered systems, with extremely powerful new technology that would take very organised and well prepared team to defeat? Aliens in Eve?!?! Yeah, right! pfffff! Roll
Arduemont
Rotten Legion
#68 - 2013-08-20 13:21:08 UTC
Flamespar wrote:
Does anyone know if there is going to be an announcement made at Gamescon


Apparently yes. At least I keep reading it in threads about the forum, but I haven't actually seen any sources referenced. If anyone finds anything I would like to have a read myself, although it's probably a bit late if they actually release the expansion details over the next few days.

"In the age of information, ignorance is a choice." www.stateofwar.co.nf
Takari
Promised Victorious Entropy
#69 - 2013-08-20 13:48:36 UTC
Arduemont wrote:
Flamespar wrote:
Does anyone know if there is going to be an announcement made at Gamescon


Apparently yes. At least I keep reading it in threads about the forum, but I haven't actually seen any sources referenced. If anyone finds anything I would like to have a read myself, although it's probably a bit late if they actually release the expansion details over the next few days.


The Eve, Dust, and CCP twitter accounts are dropping hints that there will be announcements Gamescom

"Roll the dice, don't think twice. This is the way of things. Welcome to EVE." ~ CCP Falcon

"Good luck, shoot straight and don't back down." - Serendipity Lost
Lord Ryan
True Xero
#70 - 2013-08-20 14:03:32 UTC
What do you want it to be about?

Yeah well it will be the exact opposite.

Also gold bullets.

Do not assume anything above this line was typed by me. Nerf the Truth, it's inconvenient.
Bagrat Skalski
Koinuun Kotei
#71 - 2013-08-20 16:50:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Bagrat Skalski
Elric Cole wrote:

So, how about a highly sophisticated, but very reclusive, alien(npc) race in new yet undiscovered systems, with extremely powerful new technology that would take very organised and well prepared team to defeat? Aliens in Eve?!?! Yeah, right! pfffff! Roll


You mean Jove? Lol

That was proposed million times, to open the Jove space, and make Jove race playable.

Custom ship skins, character creator style "repaint". Bring it!
Elizabeth Aideron
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#72 - 2013-08-20 17:02:19 UTC
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
The theme of the December release (for goodness sake's people, an expansion was Apochrypha, re-arranging deck chairs is not an expansion) will be announced in 3 or 5 days at GamesCom.

It will be focused on the continuing transfer of wealth generation from high sec to null sec, like the appropriation of a huge chunk of ice revenue and ore mining was. I fully expect to see the announcement of the beginning of the end of T2 mfg in high sec, and that null sec will eventually be the only place it can occur, which will dovetail nicely with the soon to be announced decimation of mfg and R&D station slots in high sec, and another order of magnitude in null sec station slots.

Before then, we will see the end of the Marauder as a mission boat as it is "re-balanced" into a PvP boat.
The command ship and command link nerfs hurts everyone, but no one more than incursion runners.
That is no co-incidence. And when CCP figures out the spaghetti code surrounding OGB's, that will also disappear with the winter release.

The cartels are issuing more propaganda about how they need renters to maintain their income streams. Frankly, the demand for rental space is unlikely to fill the space being offered, so CCP, in its ongoing efforts to turn Eve into NullSec Online, is going to have to incentivize players to want to go to null. That can only be done by wiping out high sec profitability and increasing null sec profitability.

So that is what the winter release will be about. CCP has been bleeding high sec by inches for a long time. But the bleeding will accelerate with the December release.


we can only hope that you're right, having to do anything in empire is pain-inducing
Elizabeth Aideron
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#73 - 2013-08-20 17:03:37 UTC
how about removing concord and instead making criminally-flagged players globally warpable with large npc bounties
Terranid Meester
Tactical Assault and Recon Unit
#74 - 2013-08-20 18:02:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Terranid Meester
Nothing that appeared in the last 2 fanfests.

Tippia wrote:
Arduemont wrote:
We're not getting a Winter Expansion.

We haven't had an "expansion" since Crucible.

…other than Inferno, Retribution, and Odyssey — all of which added more tools to the game than we've seen in a looong time.


Inferno, Retribution and Odyssey were really nothing special. If you added all three of them together, that might more along the lines of a single decent expansion. On their own they are just stopgaps.
Flamespar
WarRavens
#75 - 2013-08-21 06:08:41 UTC
Great. So CCP is putting resources into another game.

Perhaps one day our subscriptions could be used to fund content for this game?

:(
Elric Cole
#76 - 2013-08-21 09:31:46 UTC
Bagrat Skalski wrote:
Elric Cole wrote:

So, how about a highly sophisticated, but very reclusive, alien(npc) race in new yet undiscovered systems, with extremely powerful new technology that would take very organised and well prepared team to defeat? Aliens in Eve?!?! Yeah, right! pfffff! Roll


You mean Jove? Lol

That was proposed million times, to open the Jove space, and make Jove race playable.


No. I didn't mean Jove. Jove has been around for years and been closed to the general players as long - it's like a cake that's been sitting there off limited to almost all and has gotten stale in the mean time... not interested in an old cake or Jove! More interested in new content that IS accessible and available to all players. Forget Jove!
Ellendras Silver
CrashCat Corporation
#77 - 2013-08-21 09:46:57 UTC
lets hope they going to fix drone GUI and the POS/role problems. because that REALY needs a fix rather before that but i fear it will be on long term plans Oops

[u]Carpe noctem[/u]
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#78 - 2013-08-21 09:52:35 UTC
Flamespar wrote:
What do you think the next expansion will be about?

Personally I'm hoping for something to rekindle my interest in this game.

Unfortunately all of the things I have been looking forward to seem to be firmly in the "soon" box with no hope of ever making it into the game (modular POS with interiors, comet mining, WiS).

I predict some minor tweaks and a "re-skinning" of an existing feature (production/ invention maybe)


Seagull announced the development theme for the next 2-3 years at this year's FanFest keynote IIRC.

You can find it on youtube, I believe.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#79 - 2013-08-21 09:59:06 UTC
Terranid Meester wrote:
Nothing that appeared in the last 2 fanfests.

Tippia wrote:
Arduemont wrote:
We're not getting a Winter Expansion.

We haven't had an "expansion" since Crucible.

…other than Inferno, Retribution, and Odyssey — all of which added more tools to the game than we've seen in a looong time.


Inferno, Retribution and Odyssey were really nothing special. If you added all three of them together, that might more along the lines of a single decent expansion. On their own they are just stopgaps.


You shouldn't really compare EVE expansions directly to the exapnsions of other MMOs, which usually offer one expansion every 2-3 years. If you look at how much has changed in the last 2 years, I think that the total holds up pretty well against any other game expansion you care to name.

If all you want is a massive changelog, then sure I guess CCP could have held all the development work for Crucible, Inferno and Retribution back and released it all with the Odyssey changes this April. Do you think that would be a better release model? I'd far rather have 25% now, another 25% in 6 months, another 25% 6 months after that and the rest 6 months after that than have to wait 2 years for the whole lot at once just for the sake of an "epic" patchlist.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#80 - 2013-08-21 10:01:55 UTC
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
The theme of the December release (for goodness sake's people, an expansion was Apochrypha, re-arranging deck chairs is not an expansion) will be announced in 3 or 5 days at GamesCom.

It will be focused on the continuing transfer of wealth generation from high sec to null sec, like the appropriation of a huge chunk of ice revenue and ore mining was. I fully expect to see the announcement of the beginning of the end of T2 mfg in high sec, and that null sec will eventually be the only place it can occur, which will dovetail nicely with the soon to be announced decimation of mfg and R&D station slots in high sec, and another order of magnitude in null sec station slots.

Before then, we will see the end of the Marauder as a mission boat as it is "re-balanced" into a PvP boat.
The command ship and command link nerfs hurts everyone, but no one more than incursion runners.
That is no co-incidence. And when CCP figures out the spaghetti code surrounding OGB's, that will also disappear with the winter release.

The cartels are issuing more propaganda about how they need renters to maintain their income streams. Frankly, the demand for rental space is unlikely to fill the space being offered, so CCP, in its ongoing efforts to turn Eve into NullSec Online, is going to have to incentivize players to want to go to null. That can only be done by wiping out high sec profitability and increasing null sec profitability.

So that is what the winter release will be about. CCP has been bleeding high sec by inches for a long time. But the bleeding will accelerate with the December release.


These are all excellent ideas. I like your thinking, and I look forward to having the chance to vote for you for CSM9.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016