Missions & Complexes

Disclaimer:
All roles and numbers reflect shield fleets and shield doctrines and are HQ centric, with hearsay from more VG focused communities thrown in and marked.

In HQs DPS should outnumber snipers roughly 1.6 to 1, making the comp for a safe (with fairly random logi, the 70%+ 100k EHP perfect skill fits and an OGB to make up for bad skills) TCRC capable HQ fleet 6-7 logi, 17-22 DPS 7-13 snipers depending on the relative skill of the pilots and shininess of fits.

The vindicator is the short range DPS monster of incursions. It is the highest DPS ship, and with proper fit, before going seriously shiny can pump out 1400+ DPS with mediocre skills, with bonused webs to help with the application of this DPS. Ideally, all of the short range DPS boats are vindis, with an experienced pilot getting a ReSeBo from somewhere to act as the drone bunny. 2nd most skill intensive ship, as it has cap management problems with poor skills.

The NM is one of the few ships that changes roles based on site type. In HQ or AS, centric communities, they fit tachs and are bar none the highest DPS sniper ship with better application at medium and short range. Ideally, NMs make up 60+% of your snipers. Most tach NM fits are designed and intended to cap chain. In VGs, many people swear by the pulse mare. It is the most skill intensive to fly properly, as the cap management issues are serious.

The macha, fit right, is an alpha boat, plain and simple. In most cases, it also is used for MTACing as it has superior speed and agility compared to the other optimal tier ships, and a high slot to spare without sacrificing DPS. Ideally, unless needed for additional utility highs or in a contest oriented fleet, only one macha per fleet as the MTAC p/d. Easiest of the top tier BS to fly, as it has few cap management issues owing to not needing cap to fire and high speed requiring fewer cycles of MWD to make it to appropriate spots.

It's been a long time since I did any incursions so I am wondering if my Nightmare fit is still accepted or if I need to change it before trying to join groups again.

Fit is

[Nightmare, Incursion Sniper]
Imperial Navy Heat Sink
True Sansha Heat Sink
True Sansha Heat Sink
Domination Tracking Enhancer
Tracking Enhancer II

Large Shield Extender II
Pith A-Type EM Ward Field
Gist B-Type Thermic Dissipation Field
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Sensor Booster II
Tracking Computer II, Tracking Speed Script

Tachyon Beam Laser II, Multifrequency L
Tachyon Beam Laser II, Multifrequency L
Tachyon Beam Laser II, Multifrequency L
Tachyon Beam Laser II, Multifrequency L
Large 'Regard' Power Projector
Large 'Regard' Power Projector

Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I


Please ignore the crystals I just tossed the fit up in EFT for easy of copy/paste.

Currently trying to get to be able to fit this :

[Rokh, Will it Rock?]

Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Damage Control II

Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script
Tracking Computer II, Tracking Speed Script
Large Shield Extender II
Cap Recharger II

Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L

Large Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer II
Large Core Defense Field Extender II
Large Hybrid Discharge Elutriation II

Is there any serious misstakes in there or would it be ok to run at least in a beginner fleet?

Damage type doesn't matter because Sansha has omni-resist - but yes, often I see EMP L with projectile guns. Fits preferences depend on certain community doctrines - for example ship with energy or projectile guns will be assigned sniper role (and asked to fit 1400s) but in another fleet you can be accepted with your present fit because there is much more than 1 community and your ship may fit into some doctrines without refitting / retraining.

Tl;DR ask about fits in community chat channels.

The cruise launchers are interesting. I haven't seen a TFI with cruises on it in quite awhile. The 800s should definitely be paired with torps if you are going to be running more weapons in your highs.Also, what site types are these ships for, as they don't fit any of the normal patterns currently in use as far as which mods and rigs are used for what.

I used to do incursions pre and post missile nerf flying nothing but a Tengu. Pre nerf, it was a decent sniper ship. Post nerf it was a decent close/med range DPS ship using the fit I came up with (1000+DPS).

The problem was that it required +6% implants and most casual incursion runners wouldnt use them. The result was people bringing sub-par Tengu fits that would become a drag to the fleet.

In case anyone is interested in the fit that I used, here it is.

[Tengu, Incursions - DPS HAMS (Passive)]

6x Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II (Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile)

Republic Fleet Large Shield Extender
Pithum A-Type Explosive Deflection Amplifier
2x Pithum A-Type EM Ward Amplifier
Pithum A-Type Kinetic Deflection Amplifier
1x Federation Navy 10MN Afterburner

4x Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System

Medium Rocket Fuel Cache Partition II
Medium Hydraulic Bay Thrusters II
Medium Core Defense Field Extender II

Tengu Defensive - Supplemental Screening
Tengu Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer
Tengu Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir
Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay
Tengu Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst

21,600x Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile
5,700x Scourge Javelin Heavy Assault Missile

As you can see, this has plenty of tank with excellent resists (at least 80% accross the board with fleet boosts) and best of all.... its all passive (meaning that even when I'm nueted by the Outunis, Deltrolls and Niarjas), I still retain my tank.

Also a reminder. Arguing with an FC in incursion local after being banned from a community is a good way to let other communities know to add you to the ban list if they agree with the reason you were banned.
And then telling the leaders of other communities they are wrong when you can't fit most of the T2 mods that are default is a good way to get them to never invite you.

A niche ship. Put a decent tank on it, leave room for ECM mods, logis put you on watchlist, go into site, start jamming sansha rats, then you will become the tank for the entire fleet. NPC rats hate EWAR.

Oh they are still quite active, of course it also depends on which time zone you are looking at them in.

There is alot of activity in the EU timezone.

I haven't done incursion at all but I wanted to know if a ecm scorpion would be of any use? The fitting was

4x prototype guss rails
2x drone link augmented

100m prototype micro warp drive
6x jamers
T2 sensor booster (target range script/ scan resolution script, as needed

2x T2 1600 mm armor plates
Reactive armor hardner
T2 explosive hardner
T2 damage control

(Don't know the actual name of the rigs off the top of my head)
optimal range ecm
Ecm strength

The optimum range of ecm is at 105km, falloff is at 183kmand stanght at 7.9, target range with script is 145km. I know the tanking ability are lacking but the just wanted feadback on the this since I never done one.