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This is one of the most popular current ideas in the assembly hall.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=10444

Appearantly its locked now due to being over 90days old with no replies.

CCP Fozzie indicated he wanted to get rid of ogb. But is he the only one? The official Dev post dealing with ogb does not indicate they are moving on grid - just his comment that they want them removed. Do other devs agree? Do other devs agree its moving in that direction.

This player said CCP Rise told him in person they will not be put on grid:

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=3439528#post3439528

Can someone in csm try to get to the bottom of this?

Is there a team working on this? Can we get a dev post from the people actually working on this issue giving us some details on what the hold up is, and what options they are pursuing? For example, why can't a slow duration area of effect be used like the old dooms day.

Are the bonuses they now give based on an understanding that they should be on grid, or are they going to increase once they are forced on grid?

In other words, I would like to know if someone in csm is willing to ask follow up questions about this proposal that is very popular with the player base.

Thanks for your efforts.

The post I linked said:

"[Rise] told me that they do not intend to force them on grid."

IMO that is not apocryphal. It's a clear contradiction.



Thats one question. And yes CCP Fozzie is making this claim which contradicts what a player said CCP Rise told him. People who have been waiting a long time have plenty of reason to think ccp might not really intend to bring them on grid. We never seem to get any reponses why other area of effect mechanics work such as smartbombs, old doomsday, etc, but this could not work.




We all "have to guess." Because the information they are giving is pretty vague and even contradictory. (unless Mizhir is flat out lying) Thats the point of my post really. Perhaps we could get some clear answers so we can stop guessing.

Its been about a year (maybe longer) that Fozzie has been saying he wants to end ogb. Yet its always just the vague "technical difficulties" prevent it. No follow up questions are answered. If there is still no real road map/plan then perhaps linked boosts should not be god mode.

But whatever, it might not be a topic you are interested in, so you may be fine to just let it drop. It is however something allot of players care about as demonstrated by the proposal. I am just wondering if anyone on the csm is interested in pushing this particular cause.


Edit: It seems some of the misunderstanding regarding ccp rise was addressed by ccp fozzie. I would still love to see csm follow up on this to make sure it remains a priority.

Then don't follow up mynna. vov

As far as looking at "evidence" do you know how many accounts pay $15/month just to park a t3 in a safe spot with links? Do you think ccp has looked into that? There are people who think ccp is grasping at that short term income despite the long term harm to the game. I tend not to agree...

But:

1) Its been a year and there is no end in sight as to when anything will happen. No explanation of really anything other than same old "technical difficulties"

2) The recent "rebalance" to links hardly dents the bonuses and in fact they are actually introducing new navy links! To me this is far from responsive to the players who expressed their views that this mechanic is broken and needs to be addressed.

Given this record I think the many players who think ccp is just trying to milk players to pay for alt accounts are not without some justification.


Just curious:
How long do you think csm should wait with the same "technical difficulties" excuse with no real follow up questions answered? Another year? 2 more years? After ten years, might csm be so bold as to ask a few follow up questions?

Hello Malcanis,

I think 1 year of waiting is sufficient to ask a few follow up questions.