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The Great Ice Mining Interdiction: Not so Great

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Daimon Kaiera
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#61 - 2013-08-19 21:11:58 UTC
Psychedelic Faynin wrote:
Andski wrote:
Psychedelic Faynin wrote:
Goons were getting spanked.

They refused to come up to the ice belts after a while.

L O S E R S


look at you talking trash hiding behind an npc alt

lol


Sorry, this is my main lamer. I was up in Osmon most of the weekend along with you goonpussies. Just ask the ones that were there.


I hear npc corporations offer great benefits and free dental.

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Psychedelic Faynin
Doomheim
#62 - 2013-08-19 21:13:21 UTC
Andski wrote:
Psychedelic Faynin wrote:
Goons were getting spanked.

They refused to come up to the ice belts after a while.

L O S E R S


look at you talking trash hiding behind an npc alt

lol


Also, you hide behind an alliance that has over half of the server population so who is the real coward.

Goons were cowering in the stations last night, and would not come up to the ice belts.
Dyvim Slorm
Coven of the Morrigan
#63 - 2013-08-19 21:25:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Dyvim Slorm
Georgina Parmala wrote:

... I guess clone costs add up when you don't use a throwaway alt.



If you're using a throwaway alt then the only risk is one of a known cost if it all goes wrong. Simply put, there is only the cost of the ship you will lose in a suicide gank versus the unknown return in loot from the destroyed ship.

In other words its just a cost of doing business, not risk.
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#64 - 2013-08-19 21:35:51 UTC
Psychedelic Faynin wrote:
Sorry, this is my main lamer. I was up in Osmon most of the weekend along with you goonpussies. Just ask the ones that were there.


congratulations, you killed one catalyst

that one catalyst loss is a significant setback for our suicide ganking campaign

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#65 - 2013-08-19 21:36:53 UTC
Dyvim Slorm wrote:
If you're using a throwaway alt then the only risk is one of a known cost if it all goes wrong. Simply put, there is only the cost of the ship you will lose in a suicide gank versus the unknown return in loot from the destroyed ship.

In other words its just a cost of doing business, not risk.


most people don't suicide gank with throwaway alts, sorry

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Rhes
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#66 - 2013-08-19 21:53:55 UTC
Psychedelic Faynin wrote:
Also, you hide behind an alliance that has over half of the server population so who is the real coward.

Goons were cowering in the stations last night, and would not come up to the ice belts.



You're just bitter about your "Grrr Goons" thread getting locked.

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baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#67 - 2013-08-19 21:56:38 UTC
Psychedelic Faynin wrote:


Also, you hide behind an alliance that has over half of the server population so who is the real coward.

Goons were cowering in the stations last night, and would not come up to the ice belts.



It didn't start until today.
Dyvim Slorm
Coven of the Morrigan
#68 - 2013-08-19 22:01:56 UTC
Andski wrote:
Dyvim Slorm wrote:
If you're using a throwaway alt then the only risk is one of a known cost if it all goes wrong. Simply put, there is only the cost of the ship you will lose in a suicide gank versus the unknown return in loot from the destroyed ship.

In other words its just a cost of doing business, not risk.


most people don't suicide gank with throwaway alts, sorry


The point remains the same though, it's still just a costing exercise the known cost of the ship sacrificed versus the value of the loot (assuming you don't bungle the hit of course).
Arduemont
Rotten Legion
#69 - 2013-08-19 22:04:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Arduemont
Wow, a lot of Suicide Ganker tears in this thread. Epic PvPers with a point to prove.

"omg suicide ganking does take some skilz!"

No, it really doesn't. It's all pre-calculated. Scan the ship first, warp in with one more catalyst than is strictly required (use a cloaked warp-to), blow them up and then dock up. Worried about ECM or logi? Why? It's not a viable tactic. Unless they baited you there, they are not going to have anything like that. As for people killing gankers, yea I do it myself if I can catch one. If you got caught then your a complete idiot.

"In the age of information, ignorance is a choice." www.stateofwar.co.nf
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#70 - 2013-08-19 22:08:44 UTC
Dyvim Slorm wrote:


The point remains the same though, it's still just a costing exercise the known cost of the ship sacrificed versus the value of the loot (assuming you don't bungle the hit of course).


The loot in mining ganks is not the main point at all.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Jayrod Tsutola
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#71 - 2013-08-19 22:13:29 UTC
Arduemont wrote:
Wow, a lot of Suicide Ganker tears in this thread. Epic PvPers with a point to prove.

"omg suicide ganking does take some skilz!"

No, it really doesn't. It's all pre-calculated. Scan the ship first, warp in with one more catalyst than is strictly required (use a cloaked warp-to), blow them up and then dock up. Worried about ECM or logi? Why? It's not a viable tactic. Unless they baited you there, they are not going to have anything like that. As for people killing gankers, yea I do it myself if I can catch one. If you got caught then your a complete idiot.


You're a very angry person.
Psychedelic Faynin
Doomheim
#72 - 2013-08-19 22:30:59 UTC
Rhes wrote:
Psychedelic Faynin wrote:
Also, you hide behind an alliance that has over half of the server population so who is the real coward.

Goons were cowering in the stations last night, and would not come up to the ice belts.



You're just bitter about your "Grrr Goons" thread getting locked.


I figured it would. Just means no one can reply.

As for goons. How does anyone in this organization come out as being a skilled gamer? You would never convince me of anyone in goons being or having any skill in this game. You all hide behind and have more than half of the server population in either the alliance or clusterfuck.

I would/could never join something like that and it doesn't seem like anyone is organizing anything to go against goons.

So, really. What is the point in playing this game.

I've just played for a short couple of times. Looked at corps to join, but most, after doing a little research, are part of or allied with goons.

There is no game here. It's already over.
Daimon Kaiera
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#73 - 2013-08-19 22:35:53 UTC
GSF has all 10,000 members online at all times. News at 11.


Make sure to contract me all of your stuff before your character gets biomassed. We wouldn't want all that good mining equipment to go to waste, now would we?

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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#74 - 2013-08-19 22:40:02 UTC
Psychedelic Faynin wrote:


So, really. What is the point in playing this game.


There is no game here. It's already over.



For you, yeah.

Believe me, the Goons have you on their list, and if you join a legitimate Corp, or when they do find your main, your gaming life is going to get real interesting.

Then you will indeed see some game skills at work, most indeed.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Psychedelic Faynin
Doomheim
#75 - 2013-08-19 22:44:54 UTC
Daimon Kaiera wrote:
GSF has all 10,000 members online at all times. News at 11.


Make sure to contract me all of your stuff before your character gets biomassed. We wouldn't want all that good mining equipment to go to waste, now would we?


Sorry, it's on the 10 hour timer. Nothing to log into.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#76 - 2013-08-19 22:54:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Tippia
Arduemont wrote:
"omg suicide ganking does take some skilz!"

No, it really doesn't. It's all pre-calculated. Scan the ship first, warp in with one more catalyst than is strictly required (use a cloaked warp-to), blow them up and then dock up.
…all of which requires a fair amount of skillz to do and execute in unison.

Quote:
Worried about ECM or logi? Why? It's not a viable tactic.
So on the one hand, you're saying that they're bringing one more catalyst than is strictly necessary, and on the other hand, a ship that puts 3–4 catalysts out of the fight is somehow “not a viable tactic”? Of course ECM or logis are a worry, since they trivially tip the scale in favour of the gankee.

Psychedelic Faynin wrote:
Also, you hide behind an alliance that has over half of the server population so who is the real coward.
Probably the person who have to exaggerate the number of opponents by an order of magnitude, and then some, in order to justify his giving up.

No. There are not 250,000 goons in the game.
Psychedelic Faynin
Doomheim
#77 - 2013-08-19 23:00:34 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Arduemont wrote:
"omg suicide ganking does take some skilz!"

No, it really doesn't. It's all pre-calculated. Scan the ship first, warp in with one more catalyst than is strictly required (use a cloaked warp-to), blow them up and then dock up.
…all of which requires a fair amount of skillz to do and execute in unison.

Quote:
Worried about ECM or logi? Why? It's not a viable tactic.
So on the one hand, you're saying that they're bringing one more catalyst than is strictly necessary, and on the other hand, a ship that puts 3–4 catalysts out of the fight is somehow “not a viable tactic”? Of course ECM or logis are a worry, since they trivially tip the scale in favour of the gankee.

Psychedelic Faynin wrote:
Also, you hide behind an alliance that has over half of the server population so who is the real coward.
Probably the person who have to exaggerate the number of opponents by an order of magnitude, and then some, in order to justify his giving up.

No. There are not 250,000 goons in the game.


That little number where you type your name and password in never goes above 50k. You are the one exaggerating.

Twist the numbers moar.
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#78 - 2013-08-19 23:05:25 UTC
Psychedelic Faynin wrote:

That little number where you type your name and password in never goes above 50k. You are the one exaggerating.

Twist the numbers moar.


May and June regularly had the daily login approaching 60,000.

It is back to school and university time you know. Every. Single. Year.

In fact on May 6 it broke 63,000.

Why are you trying so desperately hard here, and only failing?

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Psychedelic Faynin
Doomheim
#79 - 2013-08-19 23:06:36 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Psychedelic Faynin wrote:

That little number where you type your name and password in never goes above 50k. You are the one exaggerating.

Twist the numbers moar.


May and June regularly had the daily login approaching 60,000.

It is back to school and university time you know. Every. Single. Year.

In fact on May 6 it broke 63,000.

Why are you trying so desperately hard here, and only failing?


Never seen it go above 50k. Cry moar.

Butt hurt?
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#80 - 2013-08-19 23:07:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Tippia
Psychedelic Faynin wrote:
That little number where you type your name and password in never goes above 50k.
You mean the one that counts online users, not the total server population?
The one that regularly goes above 50k?
The one that would still require the goons to have 15–25,000 members for them to be “half the [players online]”, which they still don't?

Yeah, you're still exaggerating to justify your decision to give up.