Warfare & Tactics

Hello all, please clue me in a little to solo PvP in EVE. During my brief exposure to pvp so far, I've been incredibly disappointed, and it has nothing to do with losing ships. So far it seems like PvP is either sitting outside a trade hub getting newbies to duel you to pad your kill stats, or it is spending an hour or two forming a fleet of dessies and frigates only to camp some lowsec gate and kill one or two solo ships passing through...

YAWN............


I know this game may not be as fast paced in PvP as something like Modern Warfare 3, or even fantasy MMO's, but I'm just not going to be able to get into it if PvP really means waiting 45 minutes for a single kill. So I'm asking, what am I doing wrong? I hear people rave about the PvP here. Is there a big part of it I'm missing? Don't get me wrong, I'd love to be in some huge 200 vs 200 fleet battles with big BS's and capital ships, but honestly, how often do those happen? "Group" PvP to me is not gate camping with 10 or 15 dessies.

So if I'm the kind of person who loves to PvP (my favorite thing to do in other games), and hates waiting for groups, is there some fun solo PvP to be had besides dueling, and if so, how do I find it?

Thanks!

If you want blob fights, join a null sec alliance.
If you want pvp get out to low sec, no need for a fleet. Live there.
Get out of highsec and stop expecting fights to be hand delivered to you.
Join a player corp.

What they said. FW systems.

I die within 10 mins of undocking.

Sounds like you're living in high sec.

Move out of that awful place.

I appreciate the input, folks. I can't say it is super encouraging...I'm getting the impression from you guys that solo PvP consists of spending 1/2 an hour looking for a fight or being killed immediately on warping in. My own brief experience backs this up as well.





I wanted to briefly respond to your post Seraph, since you seem to be the only one who didn't read my initial post. #1, I don't want blob fights...#2, I'll give that a shot...#3, where do you think my PvP experience has been, aside from duels, which I said is not pvp...#4, I could join a PvP corp, but solo is my thing, not fleet stuff (unless we're talking a BIG fleet).


Back to the topic. I hear a lot of people give the "go live in low sec" advice. I'm happy to do that. This toon I'm posting on is not my PvP toon. My PvP toon I am more than happy to get a super low security status, live in low/ null sec, etc. I'm just not sure how. My experience in low sec (never been to null), is I basically die immediately. How am I supposed to earn money, build ships, etc. when my cash-flow is going out the door, not in it. I recently outfitted 4 rifters and I'm down to 1, without getting a single shot (or warp) off with the first three. In fact, It may even have been NPC's who killed me (the last one I shot a guy with a white box and a flashing red skull in the middle, thinking he was an enemy player). I'm starting to think he wasn't even a person.

Anyways, lest anyone get the wrong idea, I am not griping about getting killed...I assumed it will happen and it doesn't hurt my feelings. I am sort of griping about the "pace" that I've seen of PvP so far, but I'm sure it is because I really don't understand it at all. I'm more than happy to give this a shot, I'm just hoping it turns out more fun that I expected.

Yep, faction warfare regions. You will die a lot so go T1 frigates. Unless you have an independent income stream you will need to actually do the faction warfare thing to earn some iskies.

A PvP Corp is a good idea. Solo is far from dead. This weekend I have had seven solo kills with many more fights (surprisingly no losses). This character is six months old and I've been in and out of low for much of that - not impossible by any stretch.

Both individuals and corporations can be enlisted in faction warfare. If you enlist as an individual you will be put into the NPC faction warfare corp.

Player-run faction warfare corps also exist (this is what you want). When you check out the corp info you will see it is allied with one of the factions.

Regarding medical clones, your selected station cannot be taken in lowsec as it can in sov null. Create insta-undock bookmarks and you'll be fine (no bubbles either).

Figure out where you want to fight on dotlan and then check the local lowsec market for bulk hull purchases. You can often find a few dozen of your favourite in the area. The modules etc are relatively easy to shift from a hub.

Try cruisers if you want but I still recommend T1 frigates. Your concern about "wtf just happened!" is certainly valid since frigate fights are pretty quick.

I strongly recommend FRAPS or similar video capture software so you can review at your leisure. It helps enormously, especially if you have your combat log window visible during recording.

I would give you that fit, but then I'd not engage you knowing what the fit is and then you have 1 less pilot to pew :P

Seriously though solo is not dead, It's just a niche style. First things first, get used to learning to engage more than 1 ship but do not rush into every fight you see.

Join the chat channel 'Bringing solo back' for other like minded peeps (albeit sometimes people come in that are about as solo as the titan they are flying with 200 mates... they are a solo titan I guess....)

Be prepared to lose though, you will... a lot. After which you'll learn, get better then soon enough the wins will come as you learn how and what to engage.

Good luck!

I don't always plug my own corp, but it sounds like RvB might be a good fit for you, at least for a little while. You don't have to worry about the "logistics" of surviving in lowsec, but you'll have plenty of targets and a lot less waiting around for a fight. Acceptance is very casual so you can come pew with us for a month to get your feet wet and then move out to low if you think that's your thing.

Many people think of RvB as solely blob fights, but I never have an issue finding someone to 1v1 in frigs. The recent revamp of our FFA system has many more people trying out solo and enjoying it. I almost exclusively roam solo as I find it much more satisfying than blobby fleet fights

Some other options you could check out are Brave Noobies (they fight anything!) or Eve Uni (for lots of info). You really want to find a corp that provides opportunities that make the game fun for YOU so don't give up without trying things out until you land in the right place.