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A New Remap of Eve
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DrysonBennington
Eagle's Talon's
#1 - 2013-08-18 23:20:52 UTC
I think a new remap would involve the cloak time a ship on a gate once it has exited hyperspace.

There would be new skills involved that would allow for longer Gate Cloaks than normal plus modules that would a ship to remain cloaked longer after jumping through a gate.

I also think that all ships need to have the after jump cloak reworked.

Frigates up to cruisers would see between a 20 and 30 % increase

BC and BS a 10 to 15 % increase

T3's - 25% increase

Capitals - 20% to 40% increase.

Something to talk about and get going for the next release.

Would the next release happen to named Oblivian?

Everyone wants longer After Gate Jump Cloak Times....But I have never seen any posts discussing it.
MestariBation
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#2 - 2013-08-18 23:21:59 UTC
Hi, I'm Tommy Wiseau

Send me isk im poor
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#3 - 2013-08-18 23:34:26 UTC
Why?
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#4 - 2013-08-18 23:39:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Solstice Project
I never understood why people need that much time
and you actually want it increased ?

I've noticed a few things about gate campers and the timer.

The usual advise is to wait out the timer as long as possible.

If campers are expecting that people will wait out their cloak timer,
it makes no sense to wait out said cloak timer.

Instead always act immediately, because that's what most won't expect.


Anyway ... just wanting to display reasoning behind my confusion about why you would want an increased timer.


Care to explain ?


Edit: Also ... wrong forum.
Peter Raptor
Galactic Hawks
#5 - 2013-08-18 23:42:03 UTC
DrysonBennington wrote:


Everyone wants longer After Gate Jump Cloak Times....But I have never seen any posts discussing it.


Shirley you can't be serious

Evelopedia; 

The Amarr Empire, is known for its omnipresent religion  †  
Mildew Wolf
#6 - 2013-08-18 23:55:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Mildew Wolf
DrysonBennington wrote:
I think a new remap would involve the cloak time a ship on a gate once it has exited hyperspace.

There would be new skills involved that would allow for longer Gate Cloaks than normal plus modules that would a ship to remain cloaked longer after jumping through a gate.

I also think that all ships need to have the after jump cloak reworked.

Frigates up to cruisers would see between a 20 and 30 % increase

BC and BS a 10 to 15 % increase

T3's - 25% increase

Capitals - 20% to 40% increase.

Something to talk about and get going for the next release.

Would the next release happen to named Oblivian?

Everyone wants longer After Gate Jump Cloak Times....But I have never seen any posts discussing it.


Agreed. I can't even remember how many times I've thought to myself "if only I had 6 to 25 more seconds of gate cloak (depending on ship type ofc)" It has been many times
Caviar Liberta
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2013-08-19 01:56:54 UTC
Solstice Project wrote:
I never understood why people need that much time
and you actually want it increased ?

I've noticed a few things about gate campers and the timer.

The usual advise is to wait out the timer as long as possible.

If campers are expecting that people will wait out their cloak timer,
it makes no sense to wait out said cloak timer.

Instead always act immediately, because that's what most won't expect.


I take my time if I jump into a gate camp and zoom in. I find my ships direction and look for something close to being in line with the ships direction to warp to then cross my fingers.
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#8 - 2013-08-19 02:03:38 UTC
Peter Raptor wrote:
DrysonBennington wrote:


Everyone wants longer After Gate Jump Cloak Times....But I have never seen any posts discussing it.


Shirley you can't be serious



Indeed, the idea is enough to give me a "drinking problem".

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Jayem See
Perkone
Caldari State
#9 - 2013-08-19 02:04:41 UTC
I am not going to give you a jaded answer to this.

My answers are generally honest and game players experience lead.

No.

Aaaaaaand relax.
KuroVolt
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2013-08-19 02:15:49 UTC
DrysonBennington wrote:
Everyone wants longer After Gate Jump Cloak Times....But I have never seen any posts discussing it.


Then how did you come to the conclusion that everybody wants it?

Could it possibly be that [now, stay with me here, this is going to sound crazy] it is infact YOU who wants longer cloak time?

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Miss Relina
The Untraceable
M A R A K U G A
#11 - 2013-08-19 02:17:22 UTC
If one lands in a gate camp and you know you can't get away just pick a target and go down swinging.
Felicity Love
Doomheim
#12 - 2013-08-19 02:18:46 UTC
DrysonBennington wrote:
I think a new remap would involve the cloak time a ship on a gate once it has exited hyperspace.

Everyone wants longer After Gate Jump Cloak Times....But I have never seen any posts discussing it.


Probably because if you haven't learned to avoid gatecamps and ganks by now, then no amount of change to game mechanics will help you. No shame, sometimes it just happens. Pirate

"EVE is dying." -- The Four Forum Trolls of the Apocalypse.   ( Pick four, any four. They all smell.  )
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#13 - 2013-08-19 07:24:25 UTC
Caviar Liberta wrote:
Solstice Project wrote:
I never understood why people need that much time
and you actually want it increased ?

I've noticed a few things about gate campers and the timer.

The usual advise is to wait out the timer as long as possible.

If campers are expecting that people will wait out their cloak timer,
it makes no sense to wait out said cloak timer.

Instead always act immediately, because that's what most won't expect.


I take my time if I jump into a gate camp and zoom in. I find my ships direction and look for something close to being in line with the ships direction to warp to then cross my fingers.
That way you're giving them more time to get ready to catch you.
When you're gatecloaked, your ship looks in no direction at all.

You're not aligning faster if you warp to something your ship points at.

Mechanics don't work that way.
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#14 - 2013-08-19 07:42:51 UTC
https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Aligning

Used google to find it. Our search is crap.
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#15 - 2013-08-19 08:15:39 UTC
DrysonBennington wrote:

Everyone wants longer After Gate Jump Cloak Times.....


I guess I'm just the odd man out. I've never given any thought to the matter at all. That's how little it has affected my game play over the last seven years.

Mr Epeen Cool
TheBlueMonkey
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2013-08-19 11:56:09 UTC
DrysonBennington wrote:


Capitals - 20% to 40% increase.



Capitals don't use gates

Also, a longer time isn't going to make you any more likely to live than you are now.
Get friends, play better.
Orlacc
#17 - 2013-08-19 12:55:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Orlacc
Hi I am a new Carebear. I want EVE even safer. If CCP follows my instructions, they will have 3 million subscribers.

Capitals using gates now?

"Measure Twice, Cut Once."
War Kitten
Panda McLegion
#18 - 2013-08-19 13:09:05 UTC
DrysonBennington wrote:


Would the next release happen to named Oblivian?


I doubt it.

CCP carefully reviews their expansion names and at some point in the process, someone would decide a misspelled word makes for poor expansion name.

Also the rest of your post is pointless. Waiting out your cloak timer after jumping a gate just gives everyone more time to get ready to pounce. Move quickly.

I don't judge people by their race, religion, color, size, age, gender, or ethnicity. I judge them by their grammar, spelling, syntax, punctuation, clarity of expression, and logical consistency.
War Kitten
Panda McLegion
#19 - 2013-08-19 13:09:52 UTC
TheBlueMonkey wrote:


Capitals don't use gates



Freighters would like a word with you.

I don't judge people by their race, religion, color, size, age, gender, or ethnicity. I judge them by their grammar, spelling, syntax, punctuation, clarity of expression, and logical consistency.
hellcane
Never Back Down
#20 - 2013-08-19 13:18:14 UTC
War Kitten wrote:
DrysonBennington wrote:


Would the next release happen to named Oblivian?


I doubt it.

CCP carefully reviews their expansion names and at some point in the process, someone would decide a misspelled word makes for poor expansion name.

You never know, it would be something nobody has done before.

@OP- no, if I explained why, you would feel worse
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