Market Discussions

Are you tired of losing money in bad investments? Of having expensive ships blown up? Of getting the shaft from the alliance when you’re out of money? Do you want somewhere safe to put your ISK? Somewhere where the ISK will grow and prosper?
If the answer to some of those questions was yes, then invest in Tomovoni’s great ISK scam! Did I say scam, I meant scheme – that is guaranteed to make you money. No seriously I have spreadsheets, so it has to work. Ever been in a bank? They use spreadsheets, and they rake it in.
You may be wondering, how can I trust a man like this, who is so new to this alliance and is obviously trying to scam me out of my ISK. But believe me now, this is not a scam, this is guaranteed money. Why? Well because unlike many other people looking for money from investors, I am a) actually going to try and make money from the ISK you invest, and b) I’m not try to station trade or **** like that which is subject to me actually having a clue how markets work. Instead this plan is unique.
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So how is this plan unique? Well like I said this isn’t a straight up buy low/sell high scheme, I’ve tried doing stuff that simple in the past and it bored the crap out of me. So instead I formulated a different plan. This is a PI plan.

So how do you know this is a safe investment? Because this PI plan works in high-sec, so there’s no risk of the planets or systems being inaccessible. Now I know what you’re thinking, ‘High-sec PI? Everyone knows there’s no profit margins in that!’ And you’d be right if I was doing normal PI and gathering the resources from the planets themselves. But I’m not doing that, I’m being far more devious than that. Instead I buy low level products (P0, P1 ect.) and then turn it into more valuable things (P3, P4). The other great advantage is that I’m never subject to the movement of the resources around the planet, so no surveying is needed.

‘But anyone can do that?!’ Yes you can, but I doubt you’d make profit from it. You see most of the products you can make via that method would make you profit at all. Some are totally unprofitable in any way, but usually, you just get shafted by the import/export taxes and cannot profit. And that is where my spreadsheets come in. They can yank data straight from Eve-Central.com. I then have more spreadsheets that take the Buy/Sell data, feed it through the PI process INCLUDING the taxes and tell how much profit, or loss, is given by manufacturing a single product. This means I can cherry-pick what to produce. It also means if the market in one kind of product crashes, I’m only a matter of minutes away from producing a new products that are more profitable.

‘So why do you need my money?’ Because this method of production needs a lot of money upfront. I have to buy the products for a day’s work beforehand then ship it to the customs offices. So if I’m running 6 planets (which I can), that means roughly 600 million in materials PER DAY. That means I’m looking for approximately 1.5 billion ISK in investments. Where does the other 900 million go? Planets take money to set up. Empire wants to tax me to import and export these good before I have a chance to make the profits to recoup the losses. Most importantly, I need to put out buy orders. The truth is, the more money I have, the more money I can make since it means I can have larger buy orders that can fill over time for greater profits. If I buy and sell straight from the market, I make moderate profit, if I put out orders, then I make twice the profit margins, and since this is an investment plan, those profits go back to you.

‘So how much money will I make from investing in you?’ Let’s imagine you invested 250 million ISK with my plan. At the end of month one, you get back 150 million. At the end of month two, you get back 200 million. That’s 100 million profit for two months of doing nothing. Other amounts invested will be scaled according to that model. But how can I ensure I can make that profit to repay you? This is a small sized plan, so I have to have high return to entice people to invest in the first place. However, I should still be able to profit from this even after paying you back since this plan is so secure and fool-proof. Literally, I log in once every two days, refill the stores, take away the profits and sell for profit.

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‘So where can I sign up? I’m a believer in this plan of yours.’ You can place an order for a bond in the replies below, or if you wish to remain anonymous, you can eve-mail me and I’ll put you on the list.

Recommended Investment Amount: 250 million ISK.
Anything under 50 million I will disregard and send back to you, or keep it, depending on the mood I’m in.
[*] ‘I’ve never seen you before on these forums, how can I trust you?’ You can’t, I am a total unknown to all of you and I’ve never run a plan like this before. So you are risking a lot in the technical sense, but in reality, you’re risking very little since there is so much redundancy in my plan. So I can promise you this is legit. Swear down, you will get your money back and more.

TOO MANY WORDS

So you're going to spend 100m per day per planet on input ressources? That's more expensive than my Drug production labs...

it's more profitable to take everybodys isk with a long wall of text and no evidence you do anything you say here

this is very similar to https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=260270&find=unread

how long until you reveal that you are keeping everybodys isk

feel free to prove me wrong by putting pictures of your current pi stuff here or pictures of you buying pi materials

http://imgur.com/KKHwe53

At the risk of giving away some of the plan, this is to shout down dissenting voices. and you will notice that the time stamp on these predates the comment questioning my legitimacy

BTW, I know it's very red, that's because I'm buying a lot to fill up my new planets which I've managed to open due to the investors isk being put to use