Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Abaddon and Mael do not need buffs.

Non faction/pirate BS should not get one extra slot.
Hyperion need to have 2 mids moved to lows as an armor boat.
Rokh slot layout is fine as is. It's hybrids that need fixing.

How would you do a dual rep hype with only 4 mids? How would you do the awesome shield hype? You need dual injector scram, web (no tracking bonus remember) and MWD as a minimum.

The hype just flat out needs another low, not a conversion of a mid to a low, that or more powergrid.

Shah I think making the hype a fleetish ship is a bad idea, mainly because blasters will never be a fleet weapon and the rep bonus makes for some epic tank with bonuses.

Shouldn't that tell you something?

Abaddon requires a better capacitor. It's cap being as weak as it is nullify it's damage bonus. How good is a damage bonus if you get to spew some good DPS in short bursts once upon a while? Add a cycle of MWD or two in there and things gets annoying real quick.

Boost cap on Abaddon to sort of match Armageddon.

Basically what you're saying is it's alright for a ship to have such cap problems, that one mid slot, pretty much no matter what fit, has to have one mid dedicated to energy. If not, it'll run out of cap. That's what your failing, er, saying.

Hyperion and Rokh both need help. You never see them because other ships are just better. The only people that do fly them are those of us that love our ships, even though they're weaker and outclassed by others. Does anyone really give a damn about the extreme ranges the Rokh can reach? Nope. So it can do frig dps at 250km, big whoop. So we leave the ships as is for their "intended roles" that all but what, 10 people may rarely use? Yeah, that makes sense...

Most Abaddons are already fit with 1400s.

Exactly, those are all mostly ****** ships. Take a look at the battleclinic, you will notice most of the top fits are either bait setups or are using something that aren't appropriate lasers.
And the only reason Punishers aren't using ACs on popular fits is because if someone has cross trained ACs they probably won't be using Punishers.

As has been said, the Abaddon and Maelstom do not need buffing.

The Abaddon in particular puts every other armour tanked fleet battleship in the shade. A ship that can do awesome dps with 70km range, with easily more than 160k ehp and great resists, does not need any help. Yes, it's slow. Yes, its capacitor is crap. That's the price for flying the toughest, most powerful T1 battleship in the game.

The Hyperion is desperately underpowered. It needs a buff to its powergrid to allow it to fit dual LAR, 8x Neutrons, MWD and cap boosters. It could also do with just a bit more CPU and 5-10% more armour hp to give it a slight edge over the Megathron in a fleet setting. Finally, change its active tanking bonus to a 7.5% reduction to cycle time and cap use per level. Fast reps are better than big reps.

Never flown a Rokh, so I can't really comment on it.

The Abaddon doesnt need more cap, the standard Pulse Baddon has a heavy cap booster fitted and that easily deals with any cap issues so even if they buffed the cap loads unless they made lasers capless people will always fit cap boosters to their baddons. Fleet Baddons I am told use projectiles anyway so no cap issues there either.

Rokh doesn't need another low, if anything it needs another mid so that it can fit its buffer whilst also fit web/point. Either that or the probing mechanics need to be altered so that a sniper rokh can actually use its range to its advantage.

Haven't followed the rest of the discussion on the Hyperion but I think it needs the number of mids it has so that it can actually fit a viable dual rep setup (atm you can get a web/point on there as well as dual cap boosters and an mwd)