Out of Pod Experience

Im not a physicists, but i play one on Eve.
The expanding universe theory is based on the idea that the light spectrum is a measure of velocity and distance. If that theory worked correctly as Hubble believed, a car would change color as it drove away from you.

Hubbles red shift = distance has amojor flaw in that he pre-assumes knowledge of distance that we don't have to prove red = distance.

"I have a theory that red means farther away so I'm going to look at space through this telescope. Oh look I see red spots, therefore, they are farther away."
"How do you know that they are farther away, thereby proving red = distance?"
"Because they are red, silly."

It's the equivalent of the same argument that Bible is true because the Bible says so.
Eidt here: The problem being, Hubble (nor anyone eles) did not have a hard fact, per-determined distance of the stars when applying the theory of red shift to distance. To know whether that red star is in fact 7 billion LY away and not 4 billion simply becuase it's red, you first have to know for a fact that it is indeed 7 billion LY's away.

It's also been shown that light passing through light can shift the color. The idea was thrown out there when i was in school then fadded away, but as our space scopes get farther out and getting veiws from a different perspective instead of a fix position, were finding out that yellow star isn't a yellow star, but 2 different color stars close together bleeding light.

I've never had to much faith in the red = distance theory. The stars and galaxies burn out and die and are reborn, they have different mass and burn hotter and brighter then others. Always seemed to me red shift was a better gauge of mass and age, then distance.

I knew this all along. Stupid scientists

My ex had a red bumper sticker that read "if this sticker is blue, you're going too fast".

This is my contribution to the thread.

I have yet to see a Dramiel change colour as it flies past me at about 11km/s - does this mean I am a below average person, or is this an issue that CCP needs to address? I guess it would be a complex problem, especially in high traffic areas, as there would be so many different perspectives... Oh wait, you're talking about RL.


The fastest RL ship is the Helios 2, which reached 69.4444444445 Km/s, what a piece of crap!

11 km/s is still a lot slower than 7000 km/s
Also, if you look carefully at the warp tunnel while in transit at warp speed, you will notice the FRONT areas lightly tinged blue, and the REAR areas lightly tinged red - so there actually IS redshift and blueshift even in EVE

This video has nothing to do with red shifting but it does have to do with the color red.

this is spot on. As it mentions in the article the current accepted theory explains the evidence, enough that the theory is well accepted. What no one mentions in this article is that there are a lot of problems with the big bang theory atm, evidence that we should be able to measure but haven't. From this short blurb I am guessing that this view may allow an explanation for this missing evidence, much similar to how parts of string theory allow a sufficient explanation for the inconsistencies between general relativity and quantum mechanics.

The problem with both is that at this time we have no method of proving either true (string theory and mass change yielding a wavelength shift). I might think on this more later, but if nothing else it is interesting

I see what you did there

And how would you know if it's heading towards or moving away unless you the distance?
What I still havent figured out is, how do they know the distance of the stars to decipher whether red-shift is true? It's not like we can go out with a tape measure, check it and say "7.5468 LY, hmmm....OK, Hubble, what's the color now?"
We know haw far Jupiter is, we've sent probes there. We have hard numbers to check theories against. But that little red dot way oof there? Not so much.