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Bad Messenger
Rehabilitation Clinic
#21 - 2013-08-17 11:42:54 UTC
you do what you want to do, you do not need others approval for that.
Fateamendabletochange
Kill'em all. Let Bob sort'em out.
Ushra'Khan
#22 - 2013-08-17 13:45:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Fateamendabletochange
Hello, I rarely post on the forums but a friend told me about this post and he instinctively knew it was one of us and yes it was. So here I am with the TRUTH. Starbuck is a liar and a risk averse **** and will never enjoy the game fully.

For me winning a fight 5 to 1 and getting out with 90% heat and structure damge is what eve about. Taking risks getting the shakes. As you get more experience more risk and more challenges are the only thing that keep the shakes and the buzz.

Cowards die a thousand times befor they reach the grave.

Here is the entertaining chat log of local during this incident
http://pastebin.com/k5uhmafz

Here is the combat logs to prove what I say is also truth, its large and unaltered me dicking in ammake as well
http://pastebin.com/KSSpxj0r

Narrative of the actual events free of bullshit.

I engage an af in a t1 frig and die, I fight outgunned like this often its fun.

http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=19230275

I came back in an af I mean who does not take af to af 1v1s, the coward ran. Two brave pvpers with space honor came in a little out gunned but it was a close and good fight they used skill and correct ammo. I had to use heat was close hard to fight under 2 webs scram kited….tuskers and black legion respect.

http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=19230961
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=19231623

I congratulated them on there efforts in local saying there had done well. Banter was exchanged. Starbuck and his coward friend chose this moment to strike at me as I looted.

He and his friends knew I was already damaged. Kestrel, slasher, thorax and the coward in his hawk came inn to attack I could of course run but cowards don’t run.

I pulled away from the warp in webbing the rax but I was neuted low and could not hold point as starbuck went into structure and got out ,If he had stayed I would of died as I had no cap but he chose to flee and left his 2 other friends to die….

http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=19231621
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=19231621

the rax left he did not fancy his chances against my af, he thought his medium neut and webs would not be enough to see me dead and ran as well! They could of killed me twice in that fight but nay they ran.
Taoist Dragon
Okata Syndicate
#23 - 2013-08-17 13:54:31 UTC
Fateamendabletochange wrote:
Hello, I rarely post on the forums but a friend told me about this post and he instinctively knew it was one of us and yes it was. So here I am with the TRUTH. Starbuck is a liar and a risk averse **** and will never enjoy the game fully.

For me winning a fight 5 to 1 and getting out with 90% heat and structure damge is what eve about. Taking risks getting the shakes. As you get more experience more risk and more challenges are the only thing that keep the shakes and the buzz.

Cowards die a thousand times befor they reach the grave.

Here is the entertaining chat log of local during this incident
http://pastebin.com/k5uhmafz

Here is the combat logs to prove what I say is also truth, its large and unaltered me dicking in ammake as well
http://pastebin.com/KSSpxj0r

Narrative of the actual events free of bullshit.

I engage an af in a t1 frig and die, I fight outgunned like this often its fun.

http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=19230275

I came back in an af I mean who does not take af to af 1v1s, the coward ran. Two brave pvpers with space honor came in a little out gunned but it was a close and good fight they used skill and correct ammo. I had to use heat was close hard to fight under 2 webs scram kited….tuskers and black legion respect.

http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=19230961
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=19231623

I congratulated them on there efforts in local saying there had done well. Banter was exchanged. Starbuck and his coward friend chose this moment to strike at me as I looted.

He and his friends knew I was already damaged. Kestrel, slasher, thorax and the coward in his hawk came inn to attack followed by a thorax. I could of course run but cowards don’t run.

I pulled away from the warp in webbing the rax but I was neuted low and could not hold point as starbuck went into structure and got out ,If he had stayed I would of died as I had no cap but he chose to flee and left his 2 other friends to die….

http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=19231621
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=19231621

with chose the rax left against my af he thought his medium neuth and webs would not be enough to see me and rean as well! They could of killed me twice in that fight but nay they ran.


Hmm sounds like the OP got the bite he was fishing for from the e-bushido guy he killed. :)

+1 op you fight on your terms and get tears. Twisted

That is the Way, the Tao.

Balance is everything.
Whisper Gold
Black Wing
#24 - 2013-08-17 14:28:06 UTC
Hmm Starbuck does seem to be a coward not taking the 1v1 then just trying to gank
Yakob
The Gaping Maw
#25 - 2013-08-17 14:36:33 UTC
Op is a dog without honour! (In game)
MH Toughandstuff
Vonkell
#26 - 2013-08-17 15:41:20 UTC
AF vs AF sound even fight to me, why do you run?

chicken )))
Starbuck05
Abiding Ormolus
#27 - 2013-08-17 17:29:09 UTC
Fateamendabletochange wrote:
Hello, I rarely post on the forums but a friend told me about this post and he instinctively knew it was one of us and yes it was. So here I am with the TRUTH. Starbuck is a liar and a risk averse **** and will never enjoy the game fully.

For me winning a fight 5 to 1 and getting out with 90% heat and structure damge is what eve about. Taking risks getting the shakes. As you get more experience more risk and more challenges are the only thing that keep the shakes and the buzz.

Cowards die a thousand times befor they reach the grave.

Here is the entertaining chat log of local during this incident
http://pastebin.com/k5uhmafz

Here is the combat logs to prove what I say is also truth, its large and unaltered me dicking in ammake as well
http://pastebin.com/KSSpxj0r

Narrative of the actual events free of bullshit.

I engage an af in a t1 frig and die, I fight outgunned like this often its fun.

http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=19230275

I came back in an af I mean who does not take af to af 1v1s, the coward ran. Two brave pvpers with space honor came in a little out gunned but it was a close and good fight they used skill and correct ammo. I had to use heat was close hard to fight under 2 webs scram kited….tuskers and black legion respect.

http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=19230961
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=19231623

I congratulated them on there efforts in local saying there had done well. Banter was exchanged. Starbuck and his coward friend chose this moment to strike at me as I looted.

He and his friends knew I was already damaged. Kestrel, slasher, thorax and the coward in his hawk came inn to attack I could of course run but cowards don’t run.

I pulled away from the warp in webbing the rax but I was neuted low and could not hold point as starbuck went into structure and got out ,If he had stayed I would of died as I had no cap but he chose to flee and left his 2 other friends to die….

http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=19231621
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=19231621

the rax left he did not fancy his chances against my af, he thought his medium neut and webs would not be enough to see me dead and ran as well! They could of killed me twice in that fight but nay they ran.


So u cried in local now u come to cry on the forum? Dude u need to get a life.

This is a game Afterall and i really don.t care what people say , call me a coward , call me a liar , its all 0 . But hey if thats what gets your kicks in the game then have fun,u certanly proved u are pro at droping tears.

I am in no reason obligated to take any fight , even if i think i can win or not, therefore it doesnt make me a coward so your accusations are bad ,but it doesnt matter. I didnt lie about anything cause i have no reason to lie, i was working alone and the other guys u killed where not my friends , 2 where tuskers i believe,kestrel was cal mil and the thorax i have no ideea.

Not all players are dumb u know,and no one is obligated to fight u just to prove they are not cowards, so like i said in local that day .. deal with it

Just because i am blond does not make me stoopid !
Seraph Castillon
In Control
Neon Nightmares
#28 - 2013-08-17 17:49:58 UTC
Can we get a lock here or move it to C&P where e-honour is a relevant topic?!
Mey Xing
assanddeath
#29 - 2013-08-17 18:47:21 UTC
The op seems to be the only one QQ here you tried to gank him with your friends and got owned? why not include that at the start its kinda reverant when talking about your cowardice
Mra Rednu
Vanishing Point.
#30 - 2013-08-17 18:50:46 UTC
Starbuck05 wrote:

This is a game Afterall and i really don.t care what people say , call me a coward , call me a liar , its all 0 . But hey if thats what gets your kicks in the game then have fun,u certanly proved u are pro at droping tears.



So remind us, why did you come post this in the first place ?
Starbuck05
Abiding Ormolus
#31 - 2013-08-17 18:58:13 UTC
Mey Xing wrote:
The op seems to be the only one QQ here you tried to gank him with your friends and got owned? why not include that at the start its kinda reverant when talking about your cowardice


I did not include it because ,like i said before, i was working solo and the other pilots where not my friends. Also i have no reason to qq

Just because i am blond does not make me stoopid !
Mey Xing
assanddeath
#32 - 2013-08-17 19:26:22 UTC
hmm well the others looking at the kilmails are in a friendly militia so there on the same side as you... you were all shooting him and then ran away i would feel bad as well not sure i would put a post on the forums about it though. again this is reverant (never gets old) when this thread is discussing you being a yellow belly coward.
Milton Middleson
Rifterlings
#33 - 2013-08-17 19:44:29 UTC
The OP seems to have confused smack talk for tears. This is a common problem with cowards and incompetents in EVE, especially the ones who make threads on the EVEO forums in order to seek vindication from total strangers and then get tetchy when they don't receive it.
Tetsuo Tsukaya
Perkone
Caldari State
#34 - 2013-08-17 20:14:32 UTC
Starbuck05 wrote:
Mey Xing wrote:
The op seems to be the only one QQ here you tried to gank him with your friends and got owned? why not include that at the start its kinda reverant when talking about your cowardice


I did not include it because ,like i said before, i was working solo and the other pilots where not my friends. Also i have no reason to qq


And yet you QQ all the same lol.

Good thread, would read again
Princess Bride
SharkNado
#35 - 2013-08-18 01:57:47 UTC
My respect for OP increased a notch after reading the local log.

Anyone who manages to **** off a homophobic bigot is a'ight in my book.

http://eveprincessbride.wordpress.com/
Barrak
The Painted Ones
#36 - 2013-08-18 22:23:00 UTC
All these pilots complaining about your withdrawal from the fight.

You figured you'd lose, you withdrew........ nout wrong with that...............

If you posted that you engaged when you thought you would lose and you did lose, then the same people would call you a fool for engaging.

Though, like someone else suggested, why seek confirmation. If you're happy with your actions in a solo engagement, who cares what anyone else thinks...........

Regards

Barrak
Barrak
The Painted Ones
#37 - 2013-08-18 22:25:00 UTC
Fateamendabletochange wrote:

For me .................


To be honest, there wasn't any point in posting much beyond the quote.

Who said he has to play to your rules.
Pantson Head
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#38 - 2013-08-19 01:23:48 UTC
You should have let him hit you a few times and then disengaged with a gf, depending on how local looked. All your midslots don't mean anything as he's hitting you no matter what if he's in scram range, but they'd let you leave after he got a few licks in.
IbanezLaney
The Church of Awesome
#39 - 2013-08-19 03:24:49 UTC
Starbuck05 wrote:
Well more or less..

Hi guys,

So lemme begin by telling a story, earlier today i was in my hawk doin a medium plex when a pirate merlin showed up,naturally i figured i can take him,and i did.. next thing i know same pilot returned but this time with a vengeance ( the ship but i agree name fits for the task :). ) so knowing that from preveous engagements hawk vs vengeance from my past experiance,i would lose the fight.. so i figured why lose a ship for nothing... So i ran away.
Now , after i ran that said pilot ofc started ranting in local and i stood and smiled and colected few tears before i left system.. but what bothered me is the fact he said i was a coward(he used alot of words to imply that) so my question to u guys is ,was i really a coward?or did i just do a smart move and avoided a loss by thinking?

What would the l33t pvp'er have done?


You are not a coward. You got a kill and then didn't derp. You made the correct decision.
Eve isn't about honor, skill, isk or any rubbish like that - it's about not derping as much as the next guy.


I dunno what a leet pvper would do but I can tell you the options I would consider/use if I wanted to take that fight.

1. Sell the Hawk.

2. Buy a Hookbill.

3. Kill Vengeance.

OR

1. Fly with a few friends.

2. Kill Vengeance.

OR

1. Bring ECM alt.

2. Kill Vengeance.

OR

All of the above at the same time.

https://soundcloud.com/ibanezlaney
Pew Terror
All of it
#40 - 2013-08-19 13:24:33 UTC
There is no shame in being a coward!

As a little tip on the side:
When running away NEVER look back and check if you are still being chased. All you risk are valuable seconds that can end up getting you caught (and if hes still behind you, you should have been running not looking). Run until you are fully out of breath and can't run no more (or similar reasons). All you wasted is a bit of running time.
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