Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Why not? Can you actually provide a reason?

Not mine, but most definitely yours. You state many things, but I've yet to see much in the way of proof to back them up.

Yes and no. Character bazaar you are treating like everyone uses it with a statement like that. Character bazaar doesn't even make sense really. You spend all this time making a character and running their training and then sell them for ISK? What? Buying SP through plex or buying a character from the bazaar are the same thing. It's not *you* spending the time so it's irrelevent how old the toon your buying is.

People need to stop thinking of this game in terms of characters and start thinking of it as real people. There is an over abudance of characters to real players. That is why newbies get devalued by alts. Even their own alts are devaluing them. Buying SP creates value for a new player even if he lacks the skills to use them(not that there aren't guides for that stuff by now).



If you're insinuating that isboxers and OGB aren't a major concern then there's nothing else to say to you. Your vested interest in keeping this self-deprecating practice in motion is exactly the kind of thing I expected to see.

They are infact so serious that game mechanics are being changed to lower their influence. This isn't a policy change or a metagame influence, this is literally game code being rewritten to reduce the impact of people with multiple accounts.

No. The title of the thread is a question, so I think 'no' is a perfectly suitable response.

I like the idea.And for you people who say this will lead to P2win why now, can't someone buy plexes and then buy a character from bazaar with great skill points?

Point to me the part where I misrepresented your position.

It's not an implication, it's a clear statement. The Character Bazaar is in no way a method to bypass the normal acquisition of in game assets (i.e. skills). Just like the market at Jita 4-4 does not allow you to bypass the normal acquisition of in game assets (i.e. manufacturing).

Are you now saying that your argument for including your proposed process is "EVE is broken, let's break it more"?

No amount of SP allows you to fly an Ibis. The Skill "Spaceship Command I" allows you to fly an Ibis.



Macros are, in fact, not banned by the EULA. Automating gameplay is. Before the LP stores gained the "buy 50 of these" button, people regularly used macros when they wanted to buy 50 of the items, replacing 50 clicks with a long click-and-hold, and it was fine because there was a human holding the mouse button.



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I for one would love to purchase SP

So many butt hurts talking about buying SP = person wins eve how stupid is that so many 2003 toons are killed by 5 month old toons every day. History has shown many times people buy 2003 toon from bizarre = ganked in juicy expensive cap you should be encouraging this for easy kills.

Whats really the point here nothing, buying SP has no game breaking advantage other then CCP might run out of skills to train big deal game would and is more enjoyable for that person.

its the same in RL ugly people say beauty is skin deep Poor people say money can't buy happiness well Bull crap this is not the issue and ccp should treat this as a business idea let people buy SP let the accountants state money = x quantity of SP

this has merit on many levels

So butt hurts state a game breaking reason other then it will ruin the game show it prove it.

The day CCP start to monetize everything in game is the day EvE ceases to exist as a good game.

The irony of your comment is that you want to buy SPs, because you have low skills.

I have got 82m SPs on Whitehound and more than 100b ISKs in its wallets. You think I am butthurt if I could buy me more skillpoints?!

All that would happen is that the price of PLEX would shoot up to several billions in one day. A lot of players could not play for free any longer, because players like me would suck up as many PLEXes as we could get out of the market.

I wonder who here is butthurt and will be more so after such a game change.

Every so often threads get created on Features & Ideas by a person who will throw up any counter argument, even if it doesn't make logical sense and that they haven't actually thought in-depth of the ramifications of the change.

No; reasoning being that every character created so far has been limited, as already stated here, by time, time created by the skillpoint training system. Every character in the character bazaar has taken months/years to train upto that skillpoint level and in turn created revenue for CCP in some way or form.

Now introducing Plex for SP will indeed bring in more revenue, but only temporarily, because before long you've got everybody maxed out on all available skills and everyones hot-dropping in titans and carebears have brought every available officer mod for that ridiculously overfit nightmare of theirs. Then people start to leave, just because CCP wont be able to churn out content fast enough and everyone can already fly everything anyway.

With the current system CCP doesn't need to worry about revenue for the forseeable future, because they know that every active account will provide them revenue in one way or form while that account stays active. The only thing they'll need to be concerned about is amount of active accounts, and there's ways to keep people interested and accounts active.

My question to you is why do you feel that you need SP for Plex, and why is it that you can't survive in eve without it?