Crime & Punishment

So for posting the truth I'm all of a sudden talking smack? lol If your a new player the last thing you want to do is to get a bad name from the start simple as. Eve players never forget, you clearly know the truth and like the idea... like a lot of new players until things come full circle and the main people in the corp go their own ways...

As stated already; if you want to have to rely on group kills only and being in a pirate corp - staying in high sec for the rest of your eve time - this corp is for you. That's promotion for you and the truth, not talking smack.

wow... is that dude still complaining over his loss.

Lets see if he still whines in a year.

Myself and Stone is not involved in this Bootcamp. Stone had RL he had to take care of so that left Somali with two choices. Move or just close. They moved.

Where do I suck up? I don't need to suck up anywhere.

Swapping corps out removes and cycles my corp war history. People tend to fight back more when they see very few or no wars in your war history. And the last alliance that tried to bite back against me lost 9Bil. And these members greet me in local every time they see after all those losses. You lost 1 ship? And you bawl like your life was destroyed.

You are the reason we do what we do... You keep talking about highsec like it's a bad place. I see your doing well and gaining good standings with your highsec missions keeping yourself safe in a NPC corp. Because you know and fear the day you join a corp for i will be coming.

Atleast my pvp life started in before Highsec where I was in low/0.0 I just like Highsec more because they got people like you. I see you tried faction war for less than a day. I gather you complain about that as well because you lost a ship prolly to an navy npc in highsec.

But lets keep trash talk out of this thread. It is here for a different reason and people are enjoying themselves.

Tears are everywhere...... keep up the good work guys...

oh man, my keyboard!

We had some fun last night.

Two pay to win characters in this corp (one of which cannot post without abusing people), no show of merc skills. You state that you teach pvp yet no sign of any decent pvp battles, then try to state your not pvp... some confusion in your first post culo duro. The only way people will learn pvp properly is by joining RvB or a low sec decent pvp teaching corp (of which there are many). So yes my statement of you being a griefer corp still stands, anyone looking at the killboard will see it, I don't need to explain it here. Also why are people paying 50m a month to be in a gate camping corp?

I bet as soon as you get hit by a decent merc alli / corp you will disband. I also like the way you pick up tricks from Kane too with the butt munching of every merc corp on this board . Also still waiting to see the day that you guys enter low sec... I see your all still camping Jita trade routes tonight again.

You keep using that word, however it doesn't mean what you think it means.


So okay so first answer.

Also Zemo you clearly don't get how HS pvp works, so let me break it down for you.

In LS you meet people whom fly shield ships for a longer range on weapons, and to kite.. prepared for the blop that's going to hit them. This is basically the same in null, there's plenty of targets to hit.

In HS it's very Different, there's tons of neutral scouts etc.
HS is about baiting your target out, and when they only want to play on stations, kill them before they dock up.

That's what we're offering to teach people, how to actually catch people and kill them.
But then again i guess you didn't read the first page. So let me quote it for you!

"Now it isn't a secret that everyone, and his grandmother can get an epic killboard in hs.
So what do we think we can teach you?
How to Fit your Ship(s).
How to use Locator agents.
How to hunt your target and kill it.
How to avoid targets.
Fleet Warfare.
General Game Mechanics."

So your statement about joining RvB whom does mainly frigate battles, which doesn't really have an error margin, is the way to learn pvp in HS is completely wrong.

Last but not least, the griefer corp.
How are we supposed to teach the things we offer, without deccing corps?
But i guess that's too much to demand from a pro pvper in that npc corp like yourself.


It's quite simple really, it's a safety measure, People got neutral alts, and we only want the players whom are actually dedicated to the project. I guess you could look at it like an anti-awox/-free intel thing.


Again you don't get the point of this project, you assume that everyone in the corp is 'super elite peeveepeer'.
News flash for you Zemo, most of the guys have been playing shorter than you have, and done more with their time.

Also that's why we got friends, you see if we got decced by a decent merc corp, we need friends to defend our project. Then again i guess it's unfair, that we make friends in an MMO right?


As stated it's called having friends, i don't think you're familiar with that word either, solely based on how you're all tough on the forum, and do everything you can to stalk/annoy Kane, and us. You never do anything about it though.
We're still waiting to see your elite pvp main come dec us btw.

Regarding LS, sure some of our members will probably go live in Null or LS after this, possibly even WH.
LS is a completely different ball game and you need numbers, and if you don't have numbers SP and experience to survive.
Those things are not something we can offer a new eve player.

We're offering new eve players a playground to learn all this stuff.

Also Zemo if you made it this far, come attack us or go be elite somewhere else, i mean i love the free bumps.
You're exactly what most people that would join this project wants to do to others.

If you don't make enough for a PLEX these days - you are doing something wrong in EVE. Who needs subs anymore? Also shows that the whole idea you lot have about loses is completely incorrect, if you actually read the posts - they are judgmental of what your corp claims and does.



Course, I bet not one of them is making enough for a PLEX every month. Also already stated many times this is an alt used for a different playing style and purpose.



Who started the whole stalking thing? Kane - that's who, he only ever stalks and abuses what he presumes to be new players. I was having a discussion with a member that had nothing to do with Kane (who I see has now left) but he took it on himself to act hard and sit in the same area as me for 7 days stating "I'm watching you", that's how pathetic Kane is and also he is the most egotistical player in this game. I have been in a fleet while in the same area as him on many occasions (oh your friends post is incorrect too) and he has never once tracked my fleet or who I am in fleets with, which is why I find him a bit of a joke.

You say that I am stalking and annoying you? Nope, not even trying to but I can do if you would like me to. You state both on your website and your alliance info that you are a PvP teaching corp, which would imply dealing with PvP other small groups not just ganking new players in mining boats and pve ships. Also it states on your site that you are a low sec pvp corp, no sign of that on your killboards. So you state that you will deal with a proper merc attack - with what you claim as 'friends'? 'Interesting'...

Kane you know who started it, I did not focus you at all. Also yesterday in olo I was passing through on a distro mission and just happened to run in the same area. Also mate there are some people you seriously need to talk to in game about current situations, that's all I'm saying atm.. there's more going on than you think. Will happily talk in game about this.