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Super Capital Freighter and Industrial Cynos
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Mudro
Vestal Keepers
Embers of the Void
#1 - 2013-08-16 18:48:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Mudro
Edited.
Lando Tarsadan
Doomheim
#2 - 2013-08-16 18:54:41 UTC
sounds a tiny bit overpowered to me. a freighter with 4 times space and literally near to no gank option on it :)
Sinigr Shadowsong
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2013-08-16 18:56:26 UTC
Some might argue that moving a lot of stuff around is already easier and safer than it should be. Anyway this thing will kill jump freighters completely.
Arik Alabel
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2013-08-16 18:58:16 UTC
this.
i like this.
Arik Alabel
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2013-08-16 19:00:38 UTC
Sinigr Shadowsong wrote:
Some might argue that moving a lot of stuff around is already easier and safer than it should be. Anyway this thing will kill jump freighters completely.


tell that to any freighter who runs thru niarja or hek or palas.
Mudro
Vestal Keepers
Embers of the Void
#6 - 2013-08-16 19:03:45 UTC
Lando Tarsadan wrote:
sounds a tiny bit overpowered to me. a freighter with 4 times space and literally near to no gank option on it :)


I'll give you that. Maybe....hmmm. Maybe normal sized? but with really low jump range? Like 5.0 ly?

As far as ganking goes, TECHNICALLY JF's have a really low gankability right now...doesn't mean it doesn't happen.
Lando Tarsadan
Doomheim
#7 - 2013-08-16 19:37:27 UTC
Mudro wrote:
Lando Tarsadan wrote:
sounds a tiny bit overpowered to me. a freighter with 4 times space and literally near to no gank option on it :)


I'll give you that. Maybe....hmmm. Maybe normal sized? but with really low jump range? Like 5.0 ly?

As far as ganking goes, TECHNICALLY JF's have a really low gankability right now...doesn't mean it doesn't happen.


JF can jump from HS to low/null but not the other way. which means a JF can fall into a gatecamp in HS (has to use regular gates in HS) where your ship cannot. (or at least will be extremely hard to catch) (making it next to I win button for logistical movements) :D
Mudro
Vestal Keepers
Embers of the Void
#8 - 2013-08-16 19:40:13 UTC
Lando Tarsadan wrote:
Mudro wrote:
Lando Tarsadan wrote:
sounds a tiny bit overpowered to me. a freighter with 4 times space and literally near to no gank option on it :)


I'll give you that. Maybe....hmmm. Maybe normal sized? but with really low jump range? Like 5.0 ly?

As far as ganking goes, TECHNICALLY JF's have a really low gankability right now...doesn't mean it doesn't happen.


JF can jump from HS to low/null but not the other way. which means a JF can fall into a gatecamp in HS (has to use regular gates in HS) where your ship cannot. (or at least will be extremely hard to catch) (making it next to I win button for logistical movements) :D


Yeah...that's kind of the idea. A HS JF, because you don't really bring a JF through gates in HS. Not if you want to keep it.
Danika Princip
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#9 - 2013-08-16 20:56:40 UTC
So you want regional variation removed then? And JFs killed, and nullsec logistics made laughably easy, and...and...and...

Please, let mister brain have a look at what you're typing once in a while.
Cade Windstalker
#10 - 2013-08-16 20:57:51 UTC
A few major problems with this.

One, you're asking for something that is strictly better than both a Jump Freighter and a Freighter but doesn't cost any more than either. That's just unrealistic.

Two, this thing can't actually dock at a station, how is it supposed to load or unload cargo?

Three, CONCORD doesn't give a rat's arse about how safe or unsafe capsuleer shipping is, they only care if we shoot each other and that's only to prevent high-security space from turning into a war-zone between capsuleers.
Mudro
Vestal Keepers
Embers of the Void
#11 - 2013-08-17 15:50:30 UTC
Cade Windstalker wrote:
A few major problems with this.

One, you're asking for something that is strictly better than both a Jump Freighter and a Freighter but doesn't cost any more than either. That's just unrealistic.

Two, this thing can't actually dock at a station, how is it supposed to load or unload cargo?

Three, CONCORD doesn't give a rat's arse about how safe or unsafe capsuleer shipping is, they only care if we shoot each other and that's only to prevent high-security space from turning into a war-zone between capsuleers.



Well, damn. You're absolutely right. No way around it, actually. Yeah. Ill call for a thread lock or erase myself.
Cade Windstalker
#12 - 2013-08-17 23:10:27 UTC
Wish you'd left it up for posterity and just affixed a note or something. We all have ideas that maybe weren't thought all the way through but leaving them around lets other learn from them.

Anyways, thanks for reading and thanks for the compliment :)