EVE General Discussion

I disagree; we can keep speaking.

It's easy to ignore the masses once they give up and become silent. Only when they refuse to go away will any change be enacted.

I popped onto singularity to check things out today and found it a little disappointing on the progress side of things.
The camera swing has been smoothed a little i think, and maybe the exit too. It feels a little clearer.
Now for the bad news......
Other than that... nothing lol, as it stands the ******** flashy lights that spark in your peripheral vision still do that.
I figured out this was a problem for me whilst on a ganked on the weekend.
Sat in that ******* tunnel in TIDI is about as much fun as trying to cut off my gonads with a spoon.
The animation still stalls for me mid jump (hd6670 med settings, single client ) which sucks too.
I kind of get motion-stop-motion.
I mean if you can`t get the animation to run smoothly, then whats the point of having it... it just makes people look like frank amateurs.
There is an interesting article on the mittani.com that people should read about Dust which hits many nails on the head, I find the lack of CCP feedback in this thread poor to say the least.

http://themittani.com/news/dust-514-cpm-open-address-community

Thx to the constructive posters both for and against btw Rome wasn`t built in a day.
Fly safe 07 (with a bucket for the time being)

I mean, gosh, how could they play the game the way they want to play it? Disgusting, I tell you.

Yup, still want the off option please.
This thread is going to get permabumped.

Turn it off.

Why not add a second option, turn off the tunnel by having an optional other animation - fade to black or a static tunnel image, wait for response, fade in again when in new system? No video card lag, no nausea, no changes to anything exept for the animations themselves.

This deserves a bump. It does make me play eve less. Right now I minimize screens or look away. It is simply not very pleasant.

Why can't we just get an option to turn this off ?

It may hurt some programmers pride but what else would be lost ? Immersion ? Then I can tell you that I have been map flying exclusively since this animation arrived and I am pretty tired of that.

Give an option to switch back to the loading bar, Eve was so much more enjoyable with it.

This will probably be my last post on this topic before my account goes dark, so I figure I'll just do my best to sum up the situation:

Prior to the launch of Odyssey, the new jump animation was released on the test server. Many of those who tried it reported that after multiple jumps, the animiation quickly became rather tedious and annoying. Some players complained about additional lag and poor performance of the animation itself. Others even reported experiencing actual physical problems with the animation, primarily motion-sickness related nausea, as well as concerns over headaches and epileptic seizures; and if anything, this should have been a serious red flag to CCP. However, all of this feedback was ignored.

Various players have complained about several aspects of the animation as the cause of their troubles. The violent camera swings, the sudden switch of perspective from third to first person and back again, the tunnel effect, stuttering and inconsistent playback of the animation, and accelerating first person motion without any stationary point of reference have all been blamed as sources of nausea. The flashing lights and pulsing color patterns in the clouds are of concern as triggers for migraine headaches and those susceptible to epilepsy.

Some of CCPs own devs reported experiencing similar health issues related to this animation. Rather than giving credence to the players' feedback, these devs were mocked and ridiculed by their coworkers.

On June 4th, with the launch of Odyssey, this animation went live, unchanged, despite all the negative feedback it had received. After going live, the negative feedback continued to grow, as more of the playerbase experienced ill effects from this animation, and even more decided that they just plain didn't like it. As a result, a request has been made from the players to be given an option to disable the animation, like the many other effects in this game that have an off switch.

To those who are opposed to this idea, I would ask why? What possible reason can you have against CCP implementing an option to disable this animation? Again, if it is an option, you have a choice to turn it off or not. If you choose to leave it on, you will have the exact same experience that you have now, no one will take that away from you. But the choice will be there, and those who dislike it or have physical trouble with it can turn it off, which also will not impact you in any way. So other than sheer pettiness, why would you be against a choice?

The only official response we have received has been that CCP intends to "improve" the animation (without giving any indication of how they intend to do this or what problems they think it will solve), but that it will take time, and basically they will get to it when they get to it. They have flat out refused to allow the animation to be disabled, or even to temporarily disable it so as to alleviate ill effects on their customers, because they consider doing so to be a "cop-out." And so here we are, 77 days after launch, and this is still a problem with no solution in sight.

I have to say that I find CCP's handling of this issue absolutely appalling. Their attitude towards their customers has been thinly veiled contempt, and it is despicable. In any business, when you have a protion of your customers who experience adverse physical reactions to your product, that becomes your highest priority and demands immediate attention and action. If you cannot fix it perfectly right away, you do not put it on the back burner to be addressed "eventually," you implement temporary stop-gap measures to alleviate the problem while you continue to work on a better solution. You never, ever, put your own design ambitions above the needs of the customer. If I ever worked with someone with that attitude, I would never let them anywhere near my team, and I would do my best to see them fired from the company (and where I work, they probably would be).

Unfortunately, CCP does not seem to adhere to any sort of standards when it comes to customer service, and apparently in thier company standards, seeing to the needs of their customers instead of pushing their latest superfical animation is a "cop-out." The designers and devs come first (unless of course, they experience the same problems as the customers), and the customers come last, if at all.

I can't speak for anyone but myself, so I can only guarantee that CCP has lost at least one customer over this issue. I love this game, I've played it for many years, but it has gotten to the point where it is physically painful for me to play, and all because of a minor animation that really adds nothing to the game but a few seconds of shiny. There is no logical sense in me continuing to pay for something which I cannot fully use and which causes me such difficulty. So this is it, CCP, you've had more than enough time to address this satisfactorily, and you have failed.

And no, you can't have my stuff.