EVE New Citizens Q&A

So, getting my friend to join this game I decided to probably go logistics depending on what kind of playstyle he wants to try.

Its nice, since I have always been curiouse on logistics.

Seeing a few rep guides where you tag along other players to get rep from missions I got confused on how to do this.
Is there a current groupsystem where we can do the same mission and either share the reward or get one each?
Or can we only do 1 of our missions at a time?

Think the text was something like "If you want to get Distribution level 4 missions fast you can ask to join a friend doing security"
But cant find more info then that.

Can someone enlighten me and give tips? :)

For me its mostly about the rep I can get from this, not the money. :)
Guess its shared also.
Thanks for the answer!

hm, might look into that, also links. :)
Thank you as well.

Heard and read a bit of this, but for me as logistics, will I not get flagged for this?
What if I rep a red target/suspect? will that flag me?

You're probably looking at logistic fits for fleets with more than one logi, I can never tell them apart for the life of me, but of the 4 logistic T2 cruisers, 2 (one for shield, one for armor) of them are good solo (Oneiros/basilisk?), the other 2 (again, one for shield, one for armor) are only good chained when other logi feed them rep and cap (Guardian/scimitar?).

Looks like it yes, thanks for the replies, sad thou that there was not many logistic ships, frigates and cruisiers from what I can find via the guides I have. : )

Will give it a shot, I mean, in worst case my new friend blows up, so no damage done eh? ; )

Yeah was reading all those as I typed. ;)
Will take a closer look at it when I am back home
Cheers thou, didnt have the middle-link

Logi is flavour of the month ATM and is in better shape than it has ever been.

A year ago, there was only the T2 Logi Cruisers, the Guardian, Basilisk, Oneiros and Scimitar. The T1 versions of those ships paid lip service to Logi, and shared their bonus' with other roles such as Mining (Osprey and Scythe).

However, all that has changed. First the T1 Logi frigates were created (or reworked into Logi Frigates) - the Inquisitor, Bantam, Navitas and Burst. Then the T1 Logi Cruisers were significantly boosted into true logi Cruisers - the Augoror, Osprey, Exequror and Scythe. These ships are now almost as powerful as the T2 Logi cruisers for a fraction of the cost.

The Cruisers fall into 4 distinct groups. The Amarr Augoror/Guardian is for Armor and is reliant on a spider cap transfer setup with other ships to stay cap stable. The Osprey/Basilisk is for Shield and again needs cap transfer.

The other two pairs are cap stable if fitted right, although usually need a cap booster to truely be. The Exequror/Oneiros is for Armor and the Scythe/Scimitar for Shield. These are the only ones you can consider for the solo rep setup you are interested in. However, in a PvE environment you are going to have trouble with your tank if you get aggro.

All the frigates rely on cap boosters to keep them cap stable. The Inquistor and Navitas are for Armor, while the Bantam and Burst are for shield.

Something to be aware of:
Nearly all mission runners don't really benefit from having a logi around. The reason for this is that you don't generally 'graduate' to lvl4 missions unless you can fly a ship that can solo it all. Meanwhile, catching reps doesn't help the mission go any faster. So if you're looking to run common missions with another pilot, or combat anoms, your partner will probably find more assistance in the form of another tanked damage ship.

Logistics cruisers come into their own in fleets that have 2 or more logi, at the corp+ level. If you're just running with one friend, then you'll probably find your skillset to be less impactful than other options. There's also niche situations, like the AWOXing mentioned before, but that's not an everyday situation by any means.

Don't get me wrong, logi cruisers are important and useful to have around. But reps don't fulfil the same niche in Eve as healers do in Holy Trinity style MMO's. If you're looking to provide utility, then EWar might be more applicable, but it's still not so versatile as just flying another common mission boat.

If you're running as a pair, a logi cruiser faces the problem of not having something to keep him alive. You'd have to fit a personal repper module, which might not be practical... Probably isn't, actually.

Lets say you're in a 2 v 2, a pair of cruisers each. You're in a logi cruiser, your partner's in an attack cruiser. Your opponent has two attack cruisers. Your opponent will notice the logi cruiser right away, and will target you first. You probably don't have a way of responding to this, not via reps, nor outdamaging them. In fact, they outdamage your team two to one, while your un-used rep ship will count for nothing since your reps are only good if it's repping your buddy.

Something closer to what you might have been imagining originally might be accomplished via an EWar vessel. For example, right now, the way the ships are balanced, the Celestis is very powerful and popular. It's bonused for sensor dampener modules, which reduce your opponents scan resolution, and target range.

So if we went back to that imaginary 2 v 2, replace the logi with a Celestis. You can potentially fix your sensor dampers on BOTH of your opponents at the same time, either making it (maybe)impossible to target anything, or reduces their weapons range such that they can't inflict any damage on you. And what makes this setup even better? It's extremely low SP, and low ISK. In my coalition, it's one of the more prominent options for our newbies.

It's still a bit of a risk though, since it might or might not work. What's not risky, however, is the reliable applicability of an attack cruiser. Even if you don't want to spend time on weapon skills, bare in mind that the skill system in EVE grants diminishing returns per time invested. So even if you only train relevant weapons skills to 3, you're not actually that far behind someone with moderately specialized weapon skill investment. You get a big bang for little time with those first couple ranks, while rank 4 and 5 give the same benefit per rank for MUCH more investment.

In other words, dabbling and generalizing rather than specializing ends up being a very good option in Eve. At first, anyways.