Player Features and Ideas Discussion

I gotta admit I was wrong about that one, I thought that bombing would preclude Dominix doctrines and that they'd only be used for brawling and PVE.

I still don't like the change, because I'm worried it'll make the Ishtar obsolete the Domi.

I tend to think of each type of sentry as a separate weapon system, which is perhaps a bit blinkered. I do not consider Gardes as long range at all. Sentries as a whole do have useful range, in fact most of them have more range than they can use due to the limitations of drone control range. If you look at the ranges on 425 Rails, Antimatter goes quite a bit further than a Garde will without substantial support with other modules on the ship. Javelin is a fair comparison, being even a bit shorter range really, but Javelin is just horrible ammo.

I think the point that most making the comparisons are trying to highlight is that the damage and tracking on current gardes is no more out of place for it's range than Pulse Lasers are. The situations are simply reversed, Pulse Lasers are extremely long ranged versions of short range turrets, while Gardes have very short range of a mostly long ranged class of weapon. They simply meet at about the same point.

Drones have always been about damage application. Its entirely appropriate for them to have the tracking and damage they do, given their other balancing factors and the sacrifices that must be made to achieve that kind of performance.

My thought on this "fleet comp" was a bit like yours and based on previous experiencewhen domi fleets were already used by some known dudes back then, they were erased because of bombing runs and suicide smartbomb battleships.
We see now a lot mode domi fleet then before but I also have to say seems no one really takes them serious or can't fit a smartbomb suicide BS, doom portals or does successful bomb runs.
BL still use doom portal and bomb runs but I haven't seen many groups countering sentry domi/carriers with these techniques so either these domi fleets are not considered as a true issue to deal with or players lost "skills" to get rid of them.

Edit: and that 10% tracking bonus is way too powerful, even 7.5% might still be a bit op, time will show if yes or not.

First off, those who think any form of cruiser should be "better" than a battleship should probably not comment on anything.

Second, I "LOVE" how a damage platform, that can be systematically reduced in it's effectiveness, is being "tinkered" with...after the Alliance tournament. Should every dominix pilot be penalized for the ineptitude of the alliance tournament LOSERS? Even if what they say is true about the alliance tournament not being a deciding factor, it stands to reason that one of the most easily destroyed weapon platforms should be 2.5% better than other weapon platforms.

Third, you will never have a doctrine that will defeat every type of fleet that is thrown at you. Apologies for bursting your bubble.

Just some thoughts for everyone to ponder.

Has anyone tested this nerf on Sisi, to see what the real effect is?

I use the domi for WH pve (shield tank, 4 drone damage mods, 2 omnis), and sanctums etc (single armour repper).

Its ability to batter any sleeper at any range with gardes was a huge and pleasant surprise to me since it makes money-making easy.

It does kind of seem to me though that this setup makes all sentries other than gardes obsolete with the domi, so the buff probably did go too far for this role at least.

I have no problem with this tweak.

I also occasionally use the domi for small scale pvp. The domi is not a good ship for solo pvp, but as part of a fleet its a very welcome asset.

I'd have preferred to have kept it as a brawler with a hybrid bonus, but there we are. Can't have it all can we?

But... since it's part of a living language, wouldn't that mean that it would be made correct if the majority of the people thought that it is correct?

The problem with that is that battleships are not the only thing that carry those heavies and sentries. Ishtars use them on fellow HACs, for example. This sort of nerf would make drone carriers other than the dominix pretty useless as for a lot of them five seconds is a long time.

this.

for a dominix to unleash it's drones on a cruiser takes something like 8 seconds to lock the cruiser, plus another 2 for the drones to lock it and engage.

10 seconds seems like a hell of a long time if it's you in the dominix.

Blaster Ferox is a beast.

I have explained why.