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using ancillary shield boosters?

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Paul Otichoda
Perkone
Caldari State
#1 - 2013-08-15 22:09:54 UTC
well I finally tried out these ancillary shield boosters and they do seem rather good. Can generally put my shield up again to full about once from zero before I run out of caps.


However I need some advice for how to best to use them. What is the best type of cap?, been using 75 and it runs of really quickly and the reload is useless. But more generally are they good for solo frigate pvp?
Voi Lutois
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2013-08-15 22:28:00 UTC
Use the smallest navy boosters you can...
Med ASB - navy 50s
Large ASB - navy 150s
XL ASB - navy 400s
Paul Otichoda
Perkone
Caldari State
#3 - 2013-08-15 22:32:08 UTC
Voi Lutois wrote:
Use the smallest navy boosters you can...
Med ASB - navy 50s
Large ASB - navy 150s
XL ASB - navy 400s


more control?

and I've forgotten about the navy versions
Orakkus
Southern Cross Monopoly
Flying Dangerous
#4 - 2013-08-15 22:55:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Orakkus
The shield boost bonus is the same no matter the size of cap booster, so for the Medium ASB, a Navy 50 will produce as much as a Navy 75 or 100. Naturally you should use the smallest available. In addition, you'll want to use the Navy versions because their charges are smaller in mass, thus you can fit more into the booster.

Also it is good to remember that they also work with Shield Boost Amplifiers, so that can give you a nice 30%+ boost to your shields.. the downside is that they are CPU hogs and may not be a better choice in comparision to improved resists at the frigate level.

As far as for use in Solo Frigate PVP, they rock. Dual ASB fit Merlins used to be pretty common in Faction Warfare, and for most Solo / Small gang applications they are quite effective.

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Nihassa
RvB Industries
#5 - 2013-08-15 22:55:10 UTC
Good idea is to treat them as a buffer (built from the cumulative shield boosts you get from the ammo) - Usually the actual boost rate will be higher than you are taking damage, so be sure to use them when you can accommodate their boost to its full potential.

Haven't honestly counted if many smaller boosts give greater cumulative buffer, had always thought it was pretty much even, just make sure you fit the most in whatever booster you use.
Goldiiee
Bureau of Astronomical Anomalies
#6 - 2013-08-16 04:15:04 UTC
One more thing to note, always overheat them. The charges don't last long enough to burn out the Booster and the 15% boost (Cycle time) makes a huge difference when it counts.

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B0XzZ
Pulse Heavy Industries
#7 - 2013-08-16 15:22:42 UTC
Faction or deadspace ASB with bonus capacity for charges would be the shizzle.

Make it happen CCP!
Bertrand Butler
Cras es Noster
#8 - 2013-08-16 15:25:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Bertrand Butler
ASBs will be a little less OP after 1.1 hits, they are excluded from the rep buff.
Remember to always field dual ASBs when in PvP. One will not cut it in some situations. Of course, use them consecutively.
Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2013-08-18 04:33:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Infinity Ziona
Nihassa wrote:
Good idea is to treat them as a buffer (built from the cumulative shield boosts you get from the ammo) - Usually the actual boost rate will be higher than you are taking damage, so be sure to use them when you can accommodate their boost to its full potential.

Haven't honestly counted if many smaller boosts give greater cumulative buffer, had always thought it was pretty much even, just make sure you fit the most in whatever booster you use.

This is very true. I fit and used an XL ASB Cloaky Proteus, ends up as a 90k buffer from a single load. Very few people seem to understand its buffer not shield booster.

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Dato Koppla
Kiwis In Space
Shadow Cartel
#10 - 2013-08-19 04:15:43 UTC
Infinity Ziona wrote:
Nihassa wrote:
Good idea is to treat them as a buffer (built from the cumulative shield boosts you get from the ammo) - Usually the actual boost rate will be higher than you are taking damage, so be sure to use them when you can accommodate their boost to its full potential.

Haven't honestly counted if many smaller boosts give greater cumulative buffer, had always thought it was pretty much even, just make sure you fit the most in whatever booster you use.

This is very true. I fit and used an XL ASB Cloaky Proteus, ends up as a 90k buffer from a single load. Very few people seem to understand its buffer not shield booster.


Why would you use an XL-ASB Cloaky Proteus when a regular armor buffer fit proteus can easily hit 150k EHP? What would you will into the lows of that ship?
Janna Windforce
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#11 - 2013-08-20 07:35:24 UTC
Orakkus wrote:

Also it is good to remember that they also work with Shield Boost Amplifiers, so that can give you a nice 30%+ boost to your shields.. the downside is that they are CPU hogs and may not be a better choice in comparision to improved resists at the frigate level.


Keep in mind that using Shield Boost Amplifier also increases heat damage of Shield Boosters by 100% -> you can overheat 50% less (overheat is producing double damage)
To mare
Advanced Technology
#12 - 2013-08-20 11:12:05 UTC
Janna Windforce wrote:
Orakkus wrote:

Also it is good to remember that they also work with Shield Boost Amplifiers, so that can give you a nice 30%+ boost to your shields.. the downside is that they are CPU hogs and may not be a better choice in comparision to improved resists at the frigate level.


Keep in mind that using Shield Boost Amplifier also increases heat damage of Shield Boosters by 100% -> you can overheat 50% less (overheat is producing double damage)

really?
Lloyd Roses
Artificial Memories
#13 - 2013-08-20 11:23:22 UTC
Janna Windforce wrote:
Orakkus wrote:

Also it is good to remember that they also work with Shield Boost Amplifiers, so that can give you a nice 30%+ boost to your shields.. the downside is that they are CPU hogs and may not be a better choice in comparision to improved resists at the frigate level.


Keep in mind that using Shield Boost Amplifier also increases heat damage of Shield Boosters by 100% -> you can overheat 50% less (overheat is producing double damage)



ehrm. no. But they don't fit reasonably on frigs anyways, a SBA draws as much CPU as a second med. ASB. So only regarding frigs with 5 meds, none of them got cpu spare to support that module.
Karak Bol
Low-Sec Survival Ltd.
#14 - 2013-08-20 11:28:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Karak Bol
Lloyd Roses wrote:
Janna Windforce wrote:
Orakkus wrote:

Also it is good to remember that they also work with Shield Boost Amplifiers, so that can give you a nice 30%+ boost to your shields.. the downside is that they are CPU hogs and may not be a better choice in comparision to improved resists at the frigate level.


Keep in mind that using Shield Boost Amplifier also increases heat damage of Shield Boosters by 100% -> you can overheat 50% less (overheat is producing double damage)



ehrm. no. But they don't fit reasonably on frigs anyways, a SBA draws as much CPU as a second med. ASB. So only regarding frigs with 5 meds, none of them got cpu spare to support that module.


Erm... Yes, yes they do. Use the ingame info and look under "Heat damage penalty".
Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#15 - 2013-08-21 11:22:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Infinity Ziona
Dato Koppla wrote:
Infinity Ziona wrote:
Nihassa wrote:
Good idea is to treat them as a buffer (built from the cumulative shield boosts you get from the ammo) - Usually the actual boost rate will be higher than you are taking damage, so be sure to use them when you can accommodate their boost to its full potential.

Haven't honestly counted if many smaller boosts give greater cumulative buffer, had always thought it was pretty much even, just make sure you fit the most in whatever booster you use.

This is very true. I fit and used an XL ASB Cloaky Proteus, ends up as a 90k buffer from a single load. Very few people seem to understand its buffer not shield booster.


Why would you use an XL-ASB Cloaky Proteus when a regular armor buffer fit proteus can easily hit 150k EHP? What would you will into the lows of that ship?

Because its faster to align and accelerate, allows me to get close to 600dps overheated. I use it for ganking in null sov systems with multiple people in local. If I need to survive for 150k of EHP I'm tackled and ganked and even having 1,000,000 EHP won't save me.

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Kaalrus pwned..... :)

Keldor Eternia
Better Off Red
Unspoken Alliance.
#16 - 2013-08-27 00:57:02 UTC
Infinity Ziona wrote:
Nihassa wrote:
Good idea is to treat them as a buffer (built from the cumulative shield boosts you get from the ammo) - Usually the actual boost rate will be higher than you are taking damage, so be sure to use them when you can accommodate their boost to its full potential.

Haven't honestly counted if many smaller boosts give greater cumulative buffer, had always thought it was pretty much even, just make sure you fit the most in whatever booster you use.

This is very true. I fit and used an XL ASB Cloaky Proteus, ends up as a 90k buffer from a single load. Very few people seem to understand its buffer not shield booster.


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Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#17 - 2013-08-27 18:04:57 UTC
Keldor Eternia wrote:
Infinity Ziona wrote:
Nihassa wrote:
Good idea is to treat them as a buffer (built from the cumulative shield boosts you get from the ammo) - Usually the actual boost rate will be higher than you are taking damage, so be sure to use them when you can accommodate their boost to its full potential.

Haven't honestly counted if many smaller boosts give greater cumulative buffer, had always thought it was pretty much even, just make sure you fit the most in whatever booster you use.

This is very true. I fit and used an XL ASB Cloaky Proteus, ends up as a 90k buffer from a single load. Very few people seem to understand its buffer not shield booster.


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Kush Monster
Big Tobacco
#18 - 2013-08-30 23:32:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Kush Monster
Solstice Project wrote:
Keldor Eternia wrote:
Infinity Ziona wrote:
Nihassa wrote:
Good idea is to treat them as a buffer (built from the cumulative shield boosts you get from the ammo) - Usually the actual boost rate will be higher than you are taking damage, so be sure to use them when you can accommodate their boost to its full potential.

Haven't honestly counted if many smaller boosts give greater cumulative buffer, had always thought it was pretty much even, just make sure you fit the most in whatever booster you use.

This is very true. I fit and used an XL ASB Cloaky Proteus, ends up as a 90k buffer from a single load. Very few people seem to understand its buffer not shield booster.


Your avatar is profoundly ugly. I can't stand it.
Well hello there, Mr. Handsome ...


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