Player Features and Ideas Discussion

@ Nag'o
You seem to be avoiding answering this question. It's not a trick question and I already know the answer. I just want you to answer it please.

Whilst they are cloaked and AFK, which mechanic do they use to influence you?

I already answered it in the last page.

Mag's, this is the closest post from the previous page I can find that might possibly be Nag'o's attempt to answer your question. If this is what he's referring to, he obviously doesn't understand your question, or is just so focused on the thought "AFK Cloaking = BAD" that he can't really fathom the point...

It has been written doofus.

Here and here you referenced the problem here, but didn't know it.

There is even a reference in Nikk's sig and mine (which I blatantly copies from him).

Maybe if you actually paid attention....

Players' perspectives don't enter into this, it's a matter of game balance. Whether you wish to accept the facts or not, the game in regards to cloaking is balanced. The perspective of one pilot or another regarding the issue has no bearing whatsoever on that fact and it shouldn't enter into a discussion about it. What you're dealing with is your opinion that it's bad, which is neither here nor there in relation to if the game is balanced, and which point you refuse to see.

No, you did not. I looked at all your posts on the last page.

Here, I'll give you a hint, the mechanic starts with an "L".

Edit: It is also the reason AFK cloaking is so effective. Without this mechanic AFK cloaking would make almost no sense at all.

C'mon Nag'o...you can figure it out....oh and it is five letters....2 vowels....

Which is why I think he doesn't understand the question. Either that or he's just refusing to answer it.

What is the mechanic and AFK cloaker uses to interact with other pilots in a system?

Why the obstinate refusal to answer?

And a cloaked ship can be engaged if the Cov-Ops pilot makes a mistake, gets too close to an asteroid, gate, object, YOU (within 2km) or you bait him into thinking he can take you or hot-drop you. Cov-Ops are so fragile for that very reason...you can kill them easily.

You may not grasp this concept, as you have pointed out you do not operate in null.

Hostiles are always expected.

At no point should you assume that hostile pilots are going to ignore you, or leave you alone.

There are two defensive postures currently being considered:

Prior to entry in system, the PvE player is operating aligned, or in a ship capable of reaching warp before possible interdiction. When local indicates a non blue presence, hit warp, and reach safety. This procedure eliminates any chance of the hostile catching you, as they simply have no opportunity to act before you are out of their reach.
This is the profile of most players, including the null bear type of player who refuses to risk more than is absolutely needed.
As this posture risks nothing, they accept it.

After entry to system, the PvE player must operate with the constant expectation that a hostile can decloak on grid, or suddenly warp onto grid from a distance. Players who fail to properly plan at this stage are the source of what limited kills do occur.
This is normally attributable to poor planning, including but not limited to:
Assuming a cloaked pilot is truly AFK, and therefore no threat
Undocking or otherwise entering space in a ship poorly prepared to resist combat

Genuine non-combat player interests, along with risk averse types, make up those who either make bad choices, or simply refuse to exit safety into any type of risk they do not control.

They also tend to be really frustrated, and may have expectations that this level of play must be a mistake.
This logic is based on the assumption that they are not expected to play with unresolved risks present.
This, despite the pop up warning when they left high sec space, too.