EVE General Discussion

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Anything in there that would help? I know its all vague aspirational stuff, but there's so much of it there that *some* of it must be viable.

I don't understand why threads like this keep popping up...

I am a carebear, I run missions to pay for PLEX, with a little exploration on the side. I have been playing on-and-off since 2005, and I have never once been to Null space. I doubt I ever will, either. Why? It's simple, really...Lowsec and Null are full of arseholes. Now I'm not saying everyone out there is an *******, but this is generally the main reason. Even now, when I go into dead-end Lowsec systems to do some exploring I usually am interrupted by some **** and his 3 accounts trying to scan me down for a gank for "lolz & tearz". And it's *always* some ass with multiple accounts, and I refuse to pay for multiple accounts to play the game. This happens so often even in ******, dead-end, Lowsec systems that I don't even care to go any deeper. It really is that simple for probably 90% of the people you wish would leave Empire space.

I know people will respond with stuff like "but that's part of the game", and "QQ more, carebear" and "Go play WoW" but what I speak is the truth. If you have the urge to make one of those responses, you are probably one of the assholes I am talking about.

This is EXACTLY what I was thinking about... and does make me hopeful. Spot on, Takseen...

Why would he need a separate server? He plays as he pleases on this one. Are players who never/almost never shoot at other players not welcome?

I think there's a problem with CCP intra-corporate communication. Economic guys keep continuosly talking about the need to stop isk inflation, Soundwave adds Incursions and thinks about spilling more isk into the economy by changing drone mineral drops to bounty payouts.

Many - including devs - are discussing how to get people to 0.0, yet every single change or tweak caters towards making high-sec life more comforting, profitable, accessible and risk free.

Nerfing highsec or buffing nullsec wont bring people to 0.0. Risk vs. reward is borked because of 'divide by zero'. There are highsec ganks, but then, the individual risk for a pilot to get ganked in highsec is entirely insignificant compared to the amount of money one can make whilst being semi-afk.

And no - ratting/botting in 0.0 in a large sov-holding alliance in 0.0 isn't more risky either.


The problem is: Nullsec gameplay isn't fun for the most part - continuously mashing the directional scanner isn't fun after years of doing it, so is sitting on a titan for hours just to get blueballed/blueball, structure grind, timers and hitting F1 after ctrl+clicking the broadcast window.

Unfortunately, the fun part in this game - i.e. small gangs - is entirely pointless from a gameplay perspective and that, imo, is the real problem.

You pay your money and should be allowed to choose you game style, however. Lowsec at a low skill level is dull unless you run into some awsome people to chat too (im looking at you bread) and null as an independent is suicidle. Im trying to love low sec as everyone says i should as thats the game, but the only thing it has going for it is the players in my opinion.

Aside from a large overhaul, there are a few smaller gameplay changes that can be made to incentivize high-seccers to go to low/null, and to incentivize null residents to go to low/other null.

1. Significantly increase the occurrence of class 7, 8, and 9 "connector" wormholes.

2. Make null-sec interdiction slightly less prevalent. As it is right now, bubbles et cetera put a large amount of fear into people who'd like to try out null, but see it as a guaranteed ship loss.

3. Create impromptu gates that take you to random low/null systems from high/low/null systems. These gates should appear in missions and deadspace escalations. If some high-sec level 4 mission bear wants to get the best and/or extra rewards for his level 4, force him to go somewhere dangerous.

For example,

Old system: level 4 mission gives X amount of "reward" upon completion
New system: level 4 mission gives .33X amount of "reward" upon completion of its immediate area, and 3X amount of "reward" for the completion of its secondary, optional, low/null area.

Have the same principle apply to 0.0 deadspace sites. Maybe combine it with a delayed local. At the very least, a person could jump into the new area, and wouldn't be immediately attacked, so he'd be able to decide whether the risk is worth it.

Well, buff null. Don't just nerf high sec into the ground. All that will accomplish is getting me (cant speak for anyone else but myself) to leave when it takes me 2314123412 hours to grind another BS.

If i want to go to null, I'll go. Everyone keeps talking about "incentive" to go to null. i thought the idea of seeing YOUR alliance name in that sov skybox instead of "Amarr empire/ect" WAS the incentive to go out to null.

Last time I checked. Most of the null players didnt want high seccies to be out there becuase they have to train them up and all sorts of trouble not worth it.

You should see this problem from another point of view.

Let's start by admiting each and every guy doing "pvp" there, whatever else than production missioning exploring, are there just because they like being safe from low sec and null sec pvp, now I'd like to see those null sec alliances, go get them in high sec and spank their ass untill they have no sp left or isk to buy a shuttle.

You want to pvp? - come play with plenty of friends in low sec/null sec.

Once this is donne and High sec becomes really high sec, the uber pvp boys will go there where they should be for this intense, exciting and so epeen activity: low sec and null sec., hell reduce high sec sytems by 50% and make them null sec.

Why is it so hard to admit, scum is scum and why give those easy excuses?
If CCP really wanted more ships to be destroyed then all those grieffers should be in null/low doing what they do best: pvp with ubber ships killing everything on their path...ho w8 there's no concord there to protect them...

Ouch, half of high sec population would disapear with this kind of solution. Too hard I know.