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ISD Tyrozan
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ISD Alliance
#241 - 2013-08-13 02:48:44 UTC
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Alpheias
Tactical Farmers.
Pandemic Horde
#242 - 2013-08-13 03:06:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Alpheias
Belco Ssefeaba wrote:

Been playing Eve since 2006, just fyi.

Everything else you said has been addressed in many, many other posts. You can do the legwork yourself and you know, actually read the posts and see for yourself that it could add more than just fluff to the game.

Also, I have to laugh at all these armchair managers who think they know how to run a game dev company better than the actual game developers. They have a seperate team of designers for WIS, designers who were specifically hired for that purpose. They already have a team for the space portion of the game. Throwing more team members and money at the space side of the game isn't going to get things done more efficiently.

They've heard the justified complaints about microtransactions, and they listened. Now they're doing things the way it should have been done from the get-go. What more do you want? (and no, abandoning WIS is not an option, as that would also be a GIGANTIC waste of already spent money and dev-time).


For a player that started 2006, you haven't been keeping up with the news much so let me bring you up to date: Team Avatar doesn't exist anymore.

I would like to address the outright false claim in your post; no one was "specifically hired" by CCP for WiS. Team Avatar was a team of CCP devs (like CCP Bayesian), tasked to work on WiS and while they got as far as to develop a prototype, it got shelved and WiS has for all intents and purposes been abandoned since.

You really must been have a massive hardon for WiS if you invent fantasies like how CCP hired people specifically for WiS. You could also just be deluded (with a massive hardon for WiS) which seems more plausible considering your posts.

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Caviar Liberta
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#243 - 2013-08-13 04:27:41 UTC
Domer Pyle wrote:
most eve players are generally pretty autistic. thus they don't like change. so they complained and now WiS has been put on a back burner :\


Back burner doesn't go far enough to describe what happened.

I'd say it was moved off the stove entirely. Packaged up in an air tight container and shipped off to a warehouse like the one at end of Raiders of the Lost Ark.

Its dead Jim, its dead.
Belco Ssefeaba
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#244 - 2013-08-13 05:32:58 UTC
Alpheias wrote:


For a player that started 2006, you haven't been keeping up with the news much so let me bring you up to date: Team Avatar doesn't exist anymore.

I would like to address the outright false claim in your post; no one was "specifically hired" by CCP for WiS. Team Avatar was a team of CCP devs (like CCP Bayesian), tasked to work on WiS and while they got as far as to develop a prototype, it got shelved and WiS has for all intents and purposes been abandoned since.

You really must been have a massive hardon for WiS if you invent fantasies like how CCP hired people specifically for WiS. You could also just be deluded (with a massive hardon for WiS) which seems more plausible considering your posts.


I stand corrected then, and I'm sorry for being cocky without actually doing the legwork myself before posting. I could have sworn that at least some work was being done, considering the tattoos were coming out, as weak of an addition as it is.

Massive hardon? I see the value in it, yeah, and id like to see it become a reality, so I defended it. And I'm disappointed to hear they've disbanded the avatar team. But yeah, I do have some emotionally attachment to the idea, as everyone does, whether they're for or against it. Coming from SWG, it was the last link in the chain for making EVE a complete replacement for it. Oh well. Thanks for setting it straight at least.
Arduemont
Rotten Legion
#245 - 2013-08-13 06:18:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Arduemont
Goddess Ishtar wrote:
Belco Ssefeaba wrote:
Explain Team Avatar then.


How much WiS content has been added to the game since the last of the CQs were added?


Word for word, identical post to one of jujumagumboos. And just as irrelevant.

Xessej wrote:

They admitted they had no idea what game play they could produce for WiS and they still don't.


Hypocrisy much?

Xessej wrote:

CCP published a projection for the next year and a half of development that included nothing but WiS.


So where is this projection then? Hm? As for my needing to do more reading on the subject, I would bet my sub that I've done more reading on it than you. Besides, I was there when it happened just like you say you were.

Belco Ssefeaba wrote:

I stand corrected then, and I'm sorry for being cocky without actually doing the legwork myself before posting. I could have sworn that at least some work was being done, considering the tattoos were coming out, as weak of an addition as it is.


People of the thread take note, this is how you respond when your argument is knocked down with sources and a good response. You don't just ignore it and carry on ranting without addressing the point. If your going to do that, what are you doing on a forum?

Besides that, even if Team Avatar are no longer working on the project we did get the tattoos. As such there is someone who has at least worked on Avatar content recently.

"In the age of information, ignorance is a choice." www.stateofwar.co.nf

TharOkha
0asis Group
#246 - 2013-08-13 06:30:12 UTC
jujumagumboo wrote:
Once again Goons managed to save the playerbase from itself when we helped CCP refocus on core Eve gameplay.


Man, you are soooo pathetic Lol
Inokuma Yawara
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#247 - 2013-08-13 07:00:42 UTC
ISD Tyrozan wrote:
Thread has been moved to Features & Ideas Discussion.


*Tsk! The thread's been moved to Features & Ideas.... The Forum where threads go to die... How sad. Cry

Watch this space.  New exciting signature in development.

Goddess Ishtar
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#248 - 2013-08-13 07:44:00 UTC
Arduemont wrote:
Goddess Ishtar wrote:
Belco Ssefeaba wrote:
Explain Team Avatar then.


How much WiS content has been added to the game since the last of the CQs were added?


Word for word, identical post to one of jujumagumboos. And just as irrelevant..


Except that it is relevant. If WiS was something CCP ever planned to focus on again surely they wouldn't have let it go two full years with no additional content. Team Avatar would still be around, right?
Stitcher
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#249 - 2013-08-13 08:11:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Stitcher
Goddess Ishtar wrote:
Except that it is relevant. If WiS was something CCP ever planned to focus on again surely they wouldn't have let it go two full years with no additional content. Team Avatar would still be around, right?


I'm pretty sure corporations are one of the most important parts of the game, but the corp management interface hasn't been improved in EVER.

They've not touched WiS yet because before quite recently they felt the players would collectively tableflip if they did, not because they don't want to. Given the positive reception the idea received at Fanfest, I REALLY hope that the winter expansion will turn out to involve some WiS content. It almost certainly won't, but I can hope.

AKA Hambone

Author of The Deathworlders

Arduemont
Rotten Legion
#250 - 2013-08-13 16:44:27 UTC
I was initially disappointed that this thread was moved to the Features and Ideas forum. I guess though, that it does belong here, and perhaps a different population of CCP will see it here, and see the support it gets.

I mean let's face it, it's not an original idea for a feature, but it still needs attention in the same way.

"In the age of information, ignorance is a choice." www.stateofwar.co.nf

Goddess Ishtar
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#251 - 2013-08-13 16:58:40 UTC
Stitcher wrote:
I REALLY hope that the winter expansion will turn out to involve some WiS content. It almost certainly won't, but I can hope.


Prepare to be disappointed. I'll prepare to enjoy your angst.
Gel Musana
LOL a Sticky Situation
#252 - 2013-08-13 20:25:02 UTC
I have to admit that I wasn't a big fan of WiS until I started playing DUST. With DUST I saw how good WiS could be and I am now a supporter.

I hope we'll see some of this coming up soon, e.g. the next expansion? At least the CQ's door could open and allow people in station to meet in a room similar to that of the war barge. Then people can have a meaningful discussion how to further evolve that. Typically people cannot see well what they want until they see a prototype. So I am sure this would help a lot. The DUST integration would be more meaningful too as we would be able to see these people in person.

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Gel Musana
LOL a Sticky Situation
#253 - 2013-08-13 20:34:04 UTC
Stitcher wrote:
Goddess Ishtar wrote:
Except that it is relevant. If WiS was something CCP ever planned to focus on again surely they wouldn't have let it go two full years with no additional content. Team Avatar would still be around, right?


I'm pretty sure corporations are one of the most important parts of the game, but the corp management interface hasn't been improved in EVER.

They've not touched WiS yet because before quite recently they felt the players would collectively tableflip if they did, not because they don't want to. Given the positive reception the idea received at Fanfest, I REALLY hope that the winter expansion will turn out to involve some WiS content. It almost certainly won't, but I can hope.


Not true. Corp management is for the few who use it. I could not care less. I want something cool I can focus on. I need new content.

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Gel Musana
LOL a Sticky Situation
#254 - 2013-08-13 20:48:33 UTC
Goddess Ishtar wrote:
Belco Ssefeaba wrote:
and no, abandoning WIS is not an option.


They have already abandoned it. They certainly aren't going to go back to it while DUST is on its deathbed and WoD is vaporware.


I have already spent a few £100s on DUST and if others do the same, CCP will be making some nice bucks from DUST. F2P must be a relatively profitable model.

What people should do to support CCP is scout the internet for reviews of DUST and various forums and respond to the stupid comments posted by people supporting other shooters or MMOs. The gaming industry is shi**ing itself at the prospect of F2P games taking over. This way DUST will do good and we will get what we want.

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Goddess Ishtar
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#255 - 2013-08-13 20:57:54 UTC
Gel Musana wrote:
I have already spent a few £100s on DUST and if others do the same, CCP will be making some nice bucks from DUST. F2P must be a relatively profitable model.


You would have gotten more use out of that money by burning it. F2P can be an extremely profitable model but not for a crap game on a second-rate console.
Little Dragon Khamez
Guardians of the Underworld
#256 - 2013-08-13 22:42:54 UTC
Inokuma Yawara wrote:
I wasn't there when Jita burned and the monument was demolished in those riots just before the unsubscribes, but I remember getting the sense that the reason behind the massive walk-offs had to do with pay to win and CCP's crazy idea for micro-transactions... WiS was not what did it. Pay to win and outlandish micro-transactions was what caused the rebellion.


Spot on, exactly that.

Dumbing down of Eve Online will result in it's destruction...

Markus Haw
Doomheim
#257 - 2013-08-13 23:04:58 UTC
Ivy greene wrote:
I'd be nice if we could interact with other people's avatars in a bar or something. Straight



I'd like to see it. /agree
Sentry 10
Escape Velocity
#258 - 2013-08-13 23:46:19 UTC
Im gonna pretend this is a petition for WiS

/signed
Arduemont
Rotten Legion
#259 - 2013-08-14 10:35:05 UTC
A petition might actually be a good idea. It might be nice to get some empirical data on how popular the idea is.

"In the age of information, ignorance is a choice." www.stateofwar.co.nf

Gel Musana
LOL a Sticky Situation
#260 - 2013-08-14 11:19:14 UTC
Goddess Ishtar wrote:
Gel Musana wrote:
I have already spent a few £100s on DUST and if others do the same, CCP will be making some nice bucks from DUST. F2P must be a relatively profitable model.


You would have gotten more use out of that money by burning it. F2P can be an extremely profitable model but not for a crap game on a second-rate console.


DUST is great, coolest game ever. I have to confess that at times i like it even better than EVE Online! So guys please have a deep look at it and reconsider your statements. PS3 is total crap I agree but look further down the road... DUST ought to be on PC.

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