Intergalactic Summit

I'm seriously going to need to take up that drinking game. Otherwise, I doubt I'll be able to keep reading this.

We call them heathens, they call us slavers, hurtful words are thrown around, 'We come for our people' will probably be repeated a few times, then everyone moves on. Typical exchange between the Empire and Republic loyalists in a nutshell.

More than a little amused by Ms Akahoshi's remark in another thread that in some ways, the Empire and Federation have more in common than the Federation and Republic or State.

I'll be your second, Gesakaarin-kirjuun.

My advice is choose a flavour of jello you can live with but which isn't your favourite. I just can't look at a bowl of lime jello anymore without getting flashbacks.

Given the repeated requests, I'm sure we might be able to accommodate something of the sort at the Masque with a bit of effort.

The area in the center under the holoprojection field does have a retracting floor...

I've served my time in Lime-flavoured hell, Captain Marellus.

Negative.

You still haven't answered my question.

Interesting. I asked because, as you know, out here in the Mandate I am far from alone in my belief that the definition of Amarrian is "One who practices the Amarrian Faith & culture." Regardless of where someone came from or their heritage, if they accept our God and our way of life then that makes them Amarrian. Basing things based off the notion of "bloodlines" ... well, that's how savages think.

So I had to wonder if it your hate was directed at the Gallente government & culture - which I can understand, if not relate to ... or if you thought there was some sort of genetic component to it - which would frankly sicken me, as it reeks of the genocidal crap they tried to indoctrinate us with in the Republic.

In case you were wondering, my mother was an Amarrian from the core worlds, but my father was (technically) from a Brutor bloodline that was emancipated for merit several generations ago. They moved out to the Mandate before I was born, along with my aunt (my mother's sister, also Amarrian by birth) and her husband, my uncle, who was born in the Federation but had converted to the Amarrian Faith and thus immigrated here and became an upstanding Amarrian citizen (he was a doctor, in case you were wondering).

Yet despite out different backgrounds and the mish-mash of genetics, we were all loyal Amarrians, serving God and Empress with pride.

So I guess what I'm saying is that to me it is a person's culture that matters, not their genetics. And before anyone asks, yes I consider the Khanid to be Amarrian as well. They may operate with a different government than ours, but their Faith and culture keeps them kin. And obviously ditto for the Mandate. I don't consider the people here to be Matari or "Ammatar" - we're all Amarrians and, like the Khanid, we simply operate under a different government (although obviously much more closely connected to the Empire than the Kingdom is).

What puzzles me is that on one hand you express a similar philosophy about every little "ethnic" group in all of New Eden when it comes to what makes a good citizen of the state, but then suddenly make an exception for someone born in the Federation. It's kind of confusing, really.

I mean, let's say for the sake of argument that the State somehow manages to conquer the entire Federation. What then? If you were in charge, I mean. Naturally I assume you'd waste no time replacing Federation culture with State culture. Heck, anyone in the State would do that - it's not unreasonable. But if you think that their people can't ever be assimilated, what then? Keep their entire population in work camps (trust the Amarrians on this - it's more trouble than it's worth)? Segregate them forever? Or just begin a campaign of genocidal extermination so severe that it would make Shakor cringe, until nothing was left but barren, empty worlds filled with nothing but graves?

Please tell me you're not too blinded by hate to see the logic of what I'm saying, here. If there is anything you should learn from us, your Amarrian allies, is that in the long run assimilation is far better than extermination.

Well, there is a bit of complication about this matter in the State. Of course, it doesn't matter, who your parents were, Deteis, Amarrian or Brutor. But in Caldari society, in more... personal matters, bloodlines are kept intact. Roughly speaking, Deteis marries Deteis, Civire marries Civire, but Deteis doesn't marry Civire. Of course, peoples of mixed bloodline are still Caldari, but for them two difficulties arise:

1. They might be discriminated in underdeveloped societies, like among kids. Life for mixed blood children can be quite harsh, because small kids are not properly educated yet in Caldari ways. Sometimes it could be found even in teenage or even older communities. But generally the older and wiser the community, the less discrimination or insulting appears. In proper adult Caldari community such problem will never arise.

2. But there is another problem, that will arise only for adult Caldari community: since bloodlines stay together, it will be practically impossible for an offspring of mixed blood to create a family. But even if somehow miracle happens and such family will be created, their children will have same problems, and thus it is not advised.


Yes, indeed, it is culture that matters and makes you Caldari. However, we shouldn't cast out genetics. You see, genes determine, who we are: humans, furriers, flies, grass or bacteria. They make all of us different, and bloodlines differentiate us even further than simple differences between individuals inside bloodline. Visual differences are only the top of an iceberg, the real mass of which is hidden beneath the water. What different genome does, is different biochemistry in each of our cells. Different biochemistry leads to different properties and abilities up to different process of thoughts.


As a continuation of my thought, gallentean genes are source of hedonism and indecency. They will rot any society they will get into. Peoples with gallente genes are generally stupidier, self-righteous and egoistical.


Oh, I have answered this quite a lot of times already.
How I see it, that after destruction of the Federation, the gallentean worlds should be quarantined, while others should be presented with possibility to either join the State or to stay to organize themselves in any way they will want - provided no intervention from galletenas to their affairs will be made.

Frankly, if 40% of your personal wealth is enough to shore up a megacorporation, the remaining 60% means you're not taking that much of a risk anyway.

Still, I thoroughly approve of the move. Haatakan Oiritsuu demonstrates her shrewdness and acumen once again. Next to the blunt force trauma of the previous CEO, her particular brand of wily sagacity is going to be refreshing to watch.