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[Proposal] Probing Changes
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HAMBER BOGAN
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#1 - 2013-08-13 01:48:06 UTC  |  Edited by: HAMBER BOGAN
The probing changes in Odyssey were pretty awesome all around. I can however see a few little things which would complete the system and make it perfect.

1) When you launch probes and enter the system map, the probes currently are arranged in a default position around the system. If you are an FC or wanting to probe something nearby, it is difficult and takes times to rearrange the probes to the correct position. Can we change it so that the probe positioning when you first launch them, so that if you launch them on a gate, you can quickly change the probe range and zoom them in on the gate and hit scan, without having to reposition them.

2) The preset formations for Pinpoint and Spread formations currently have default ranges for the probes. Can we change it so it will change the probe's position but not their size so, for example, if you are already at 1au probe range, the pinpointing formation will move the probes to the pinpointing formation and keep them 1au range.

3) I'm not sure why you would ever need to have probes at different ranges for different probes. How about a unified probe range selector instead of shift clicking all the probes, then right clicking and going down to the new range,

Thoughts and ideas?

Best Bogan

EVE Down Under - Australian EVE Community www.evedownunder.com
Chiimera
State War Academy
Caldari State
#2 - 2013-08-13 02:13:54 UTC
So

This is what we should have:

1. Launch probes, which deploy at your current position.
2. Set probe range.
3. Click formation.
4. Probes deploy to their formation scaled to the range they are set.

This is what we currently have:
At the moment when you click on a formation probes are always deployed to their preset range (4AU for pinpoint I believe) at the middle of the solar system, which is great if you want to pinpoint probe say... a carrier sitting at the sun. Another contributing factor to the problem is that when we want to reconfigure these formation the all probes except for the centerpoint probes have to be move along two axis.

How to fix it:

If I were to deploy probes, set their range to 2AU then click the formation button it should take the 4AU formation and halve the distance from the centerpoint.

I would also like to be able to save a custom preset for my probes which operates in the same way, If I set up a preset that is at 4AU and save it, if I deploy my probes, set them to 1AU it will change the distance from my midpoint probe to 25% of the 4AU preset.

I know this would become difficult because the game has no way of telling which probe is the anchorpoint but this really is just another button in a right click menu that needs to be added.

While I am here I would also like to be able to choose the number of probes I want to use. Say a menu that lets me enter a number from 1-8

here is a video I prepared earler: http://www.twitch.tv/eve_chiimera/c/2741706





HAMBER BOGAN
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#3 - 2013-08-13 02:18:40 UTC
Chiimera wrote:
So


I would also like to be able to save a custom preset for my probes which operates in the same way, If I set up a preset that is at 4AU and save it, if I deploy my probes, set them to 1AU it will change the distance from my midpoint probe to 25% of the 4AU preset.

I know this would become difficult because the game has no way of telling which probe is the anchorpoint but this really is just another button in a right click menu that needs to be added.



If you deploy probes, the initial anchor point should be where you dropped the probes, makes sense and helpful to get those quick ongrid warp in's to get ships at tacs.

Best Bogan

EVE Down Under - Australian EVE Community www.evedownunder.com
Oliver Eels
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2013-08-13 15:49:00 UTC
HAMBER BOGAN wrote:

If you deploy probes, the initial anchor point should be where you dropped the probes, makes sense and helpful to get those quick ongrid warp in's to get ships at tacs.


Thousand times yes. Getting the ship signature off of someone who undocks is one of those things that became way more cumbersome after Odyssey. This is simple, sensible, and fixes it.
Chiimera
State War Academy
Caldari State
#5 - 2013-08-15 06:13:33 UTC
I got told on twitter that if you resize the probes by using the graphical representation of the probes it resizes the formation.

Tested and works, things just became soo much easier.