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Combat Booster Transportation Options
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Endo Riftbreaker
STK Scientific
The Initiative.
#1 - 2013-08-12 17:27:27 UTC
Hi all,

So I have my first round of combat boosters coming out of production this week. I am manufacturing the standard boosters, which are illegal in High Sec. I'm currently living in a WH with a high sec static, and am planning on selling the boosters in Jita.

My question is simple, what's the best way to move the finished boosters? I have access to a Cov Ops frigate, Blockade runners (can NPC's still cargo scan them?) Ventures (plus 2 core stability?)

Just looking for some solid advice on avoiding the 5-0 haha.

Thanks in advance.

-E
Styx Titan
Doomheim
#2 - 2013-08-12 19:11:07 UTC
Your boosters are not welcome in Jita.
Silvetica Dian
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#3 - 2013-08-12 19:16:22 UTC
Have you put any thought into how your customers will get them out from Jita?
Unless you just plan to laugh at the people getting arrested in JIta for holding contraband (a reasonable plan) then maybe high sec isn't the place to be selling these products.
Check low sec staging systems and run them down to those systems.

Money at its root is a form of rationing. When the richest 85 people have as much wealth as the poorest 3.5 billion (50% of humanity) it is clear where the source of poverty is. http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/jan/20/trickle-down-economics-broken-promise-richest-85
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#4 - 2013-08-12 19:40:22 UTC
Welp, the 2 yucksters above said absolutely nothing about ships, so I'll just say I've always run like a bat out of hell with them in an Interceptor class ship.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Endo Riftbreaker
STK Scientific
The Initiative.
#5 - 2013-08-12 20:14:22 UTC
There's a pretty active market with both buy and sell orders in Jita for the boosters, so I'm not worried about that -people obviously just jump freighter them out etc.

Thanks, I'll check out interceptors, but presumably covops work just as well.
Robert Morningstar
Morningstar Excavations LTD
Business Alliance of Manufacturers and Miners
#6 - 2013-08-12 20:34:50 UTC
Styx Titan wrote:
Your boosters are not welcome in Jita.



Say hi to your competition
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#7 - 2013-08-12 20:35:18 UTC
Endo Riftbreaker wrote:
There's a pretty active market with both buy and sell orders in Jita for the boosters, so I'm not worried about that -people obviously just jump freighter them out etc.

Thanks, I'll check out interceptors, but presumably covops work just as well.



Actually....although I did it in Interceptors, Covops is probably better. More Agility so faster aligning. Greater Warp Speed too, although that's just a bonus, not vital.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#8 - 2013-08-13 00:27:47 UTC
I think the traditional way was a fast frigate on an alt with an empty (soon to be negative) wallet.

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Oxide Ammar
#9 - 2013-08-13 07:55:49 UTC
Blockade runner with Cov ops may be.

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Karak Bol
Low-Sec Survival Ltd.
#10 - 2013-08-13 12:28:20 UTC
I tested the options for this problem, and a covops cloak reduced the times I got busted. Also aligntime is very important, so Covops frigate is the answer. But throwaway alt is even more easy.
Ciaphas Cyne
Moira.
#11 - 2013-08-13 19:01:26 UTC
Karak Bol wrote:
I But throwaway alt is even more easy.



i hate that that's an acceptable answer for anything in Eve that isnt PVP. not every industry should be the domain of someones alt. Not gonna highjack the thread and rant about alts more...sorry...

anyway, Crane is a nice choice. And people do buy boosters in high sec, the market is just a little slow thats all. Standard boosters seem to sell the most and the skill books to resist the side effects are VERY pricey in sec space.

"buff only the stuff I fly and nerf everything else"

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Albercheck
Crossfire Incorporated
#12 - 2013-08-13 20:58:38 UTC
You can sell in Jita if you want, but it's a pretty massive hassle on both you and your prospective clients.

Here's a tip I can offer you though if you're at all interested: if you're not 100% set on selling the actual finished product, you should consider selling the pure chemical booster form (step 9/10) and not the actual finished combat booster. The pure chemical forms are completely legal to haul, and there is barely any competition.

Savvy traders/explorers bottleneck the gas supply, so you can make your own cash by bottlenecking the pure chemical forms if you want.

Let someone else take the risk transporting the final product.

Just my 2 cents (it's what I do.)
Grandma Squirel
#13 - 2013-08-14 00:42:11 UTC
Albercheck wrote:
You can sell in Jita if you want, but it's a pretty massive hassle on both you and your prospective clients.

Here's a tip I can offer you though if you're at all interested: if you're not 100% set on selling the actual finished product, you should consider selling the pure chemical booster form (step 9/10) and not the actual finished combat booster. The pure chemical forms are completely legal to haul, and there is barely any competition.

Savvy traders/explorers bottleneck the gas supply, so you can make your own cash by bottlenecking the pure chemical forms if you want.

Let someone else take the risk transporting the final product.

Just my 2 cents (it's what I do.)


People actually buy those? You need the POS to finish them anyway...
Nalha Saldana
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2013-08-14 13:57:57 UTC
I think blockade runners are immune to npc scans nowadays, try it.
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#15 - 2013-08-14 18:00:30 UTC
Nalha Saldana wrote:
I think blockade runners are immune to npc scans nowadays, try it.



Immune from player scanning, not from NPC scanning.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Anne McDonald
Sandman are here
#16 - 2013-08-21 07:32:01 UTC
Hey I used to be in booster production for a while and I was looking for the same answer as you but never found it. It seems the community was split between 'yeah a fast aligning ship or cloaky will be fine for transporting' and 'you do not technically get scanned you have an X percent chance to get caught and there is nothing you can do about it'

So I took the chance I grabbed a cloaky and large chunk of my boosters and off I went 20 high sec jumps to jita and I had received 10 fines. (still I made a large amount of profit from just selling to buy orders) I flew back to my booster stash put the cloaky away and grabbed an interceptor did the same route to jita and I received 9 fines the logical answer I got from my tests were that you have a 50% chance of getting caught but I could still be wrong.

There are ways around getting caught by customs which I never tested out such as having a scout check for customs on the gates or having a fleet actually kill the customs ships (the latter of which I didn't want to risk other peoples ships for something I was not sure would work)

I hope you can make use of this information and good luck with it all
Albercheck
Crossfire Incorporated
#17 - 2013-08-29 17:05:31 UTC
Grandma Squirel wrote:
Albercheck wrote:
You can sell in Jita if you want, but it's a pretty massive hassle on both you and your prospective clients.

Here's a tip I can offer you though if you're at all interested: if you're not 100% set on selling the actual finished product, you should consider selling the pure chemical booster form (step 9/10) and not the actual finished combat booster. The pure chemical forms are completely legal to haul, and there is barely any competition.

Savvy traders/explorers bottleneck the gas supply, so you can make your own cash by bottlenecking the pure chemical forms if you want.

Let someone else take the risk transporting the final product.

Just my 2 cents (it's what I do.)


People actually buy those? You need the POS to finish them anyway...


Yep. If you do a lot of trading, you know that you're basically making money off of lazy people. Booster producers are no different.

Selling the pure forms of high grade boosters is usually the best because those require the most amount of reacting. Basically, people are paying you for doing all the reaction work..... which for the high grade boosters is a lot of mixing and matching. The best part, too, is pretty much no one else does it so you get to name your price. Don't get me wrong, the market isn't exactly vibrant so you shouldn't expect things to sell quickly. But, they definitely sell.
Ginger Barbarella
#18 - 2013-08-29 21:13:57 UTC
So, basically, nobody answering in this thread has ever actually run boosters? Cuz I would like to hear more about ship, tactics, and how they did it, rather than "it should work", "this is how my buddy did it", and "I heard this worked". Howz about the people that GOT THEM TO JITA OR HEK OR RENS actually answer, and let us know about whether you got caught (fees), and whether the items were actually confiscated or not (last few times I got caught with contraband it was never confiscated).

Thanks.

"Blow it all on Quafe and strippers." --- Sorlac
Andrew Indy
Cleaning Crew
#19 - 2013-08-30 08:41:43 UTC
Never done it myself but you could try double bagging it (courier contract it between alts)
Night Sword
State War Academy
Caldari State
#20 - 2013-08-31 22:07:22 UTC
Awhile back I was very into booster production. I was making about 50 standard pills a day selling on the lowsec market of FW players. The reason I quit was I was outproducing what I was selling. Any bulk stash I had to get rid of quicker then the market in low I took to jita.

There is no way to escape the NPC customs scans. It will happen cloaked or not. The easiest way to not have it confiscated is a quick alligning frigate (Inertia stabs help) and just manually warp gate to gate.

Disregard the popup until you are able to get through the other gate to the side There are no way to avoid the fines so take that into account with planning profits. But atleast you can not get it taken away being quick enough on the warp.

Oh and you lose a little sec status
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