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Ah, my favorite way to troll reds and efficiently haul ship hulls at the same time... Those tears were so delicious...

Good times

Oh the tears are strong in this one. Enough tears here to fuel a fleet of jump freighters and carriers for years. LOL - gotta find a better way to get your kills now guys.

It looks like the guy in CCP who thought of this (or at least lent his experience to the process) was:

CCP Atlas who plays the game
CCP Atlas who flies a jump freighter
CCP Atlas who has never gotten caught

And to the above posters, yes, I am sure that the CCP guy is an elite jump freighter pilot, and I am sure that tons of people escape from station camps on their own everyday.

Thats only part of the issue, the main issue is that EVERYBODY IN EVE has asked that station docking games be done away with, they are the worst thing in the game.

And yet, instead of fulfilling this one request, they make it worse, but hey, we have a counter that counts the number of spins in station so it should be alright right?

No, no its not, making station games worse is the dumbest thing they could have done.

Not bothering to read everything in the comments, but it seems to me that this is bad news.

You can currently switch ships as fast as you can click "Board Ship" Are you now ADDING a timer to switching ships in stations?

It means a 33% reduction in the time it takes to reship in station (meaning reinforcements within system can get on the field quicker) OR since the current time to reship is ZERO SECONDS-can you get in a ship in under 0 seconds?

Maybe I am confused. Or maybe CCP's left hand doesnt know what the right is doing, and if so I am troubled that Dev's don't know enough about the current build to know WTH is happening. I sure hope they arent adding 20 second timer to ship switching.

I can see your point of view, but currently there are 2 ways to generate a fight in EVE.

1) Camp a station until they get tired of it and undock a fleet to fight.


2) Shoot inanimate objects and generate a timer that causes a massive blob to form and then you get an epic fleet fight, maybe, assuming the enemy won't stand down.


This change basically eliminates number one, as you won't kill anything on the undock anymore, so camping somebody in station is basically just a waste of everybodies time, you can't generate a fight because you aren't bothering the station residents because, you can't kill any of them.

So that leaves us with the inanimate objects, and Im not sure if you've noticed, but 0.0 as a whole is pretty sick of shooting structures, its in large part the cause of the stagnation.

NOBODY likes it, its boring, it sucks up hours of time and it has little to no effect since its so incredibly slanted towards the defender (one slip and the attacker is reset to 0, where as the defender has a full week and 3 shots to get it right).

Structure shooting sucks, and its dumb, its a shining example of why the dominion expansion was bad, and why supercarrier exploded across EVE (if you dont use them get used to fleet participation tanking as you force your guys to show up for boring structure grinds night after night).

Station games are dumb, using a station to generate a fight so you don't have to endure structure shooting to get it done isn't.

And your reply wasn't snarky at all.

You would be confused...

It says in the dev blog that "The most bothersome place where the session-change timer kicked in was in stations when changing ships. The timer for changing ships in station was removed completely in the Incarna expansion by fundamentally changing the way changing ships is done." We are not adding it back in that particular place, rather we are reducing it from 30 seconds to 20 seconds in those other places it still exists.

What if you go through more than 3 docking procedures in under 1m30s your paperwork for docking begins to get delayed while your session timer runs out.

yeah, something not allowing you to undock / redock immediatly after 2-3-4 times would be nice, to nerf a bit docking games.

i would say the same method as for wormhole would be very nice.

for those who don't know, jumping though wormholes is easier than gate, cause you are not 12km away, but in range to rejump immeatly after session timer, so you can rejump without anywa risk with the jumping cloak.
BUT you can only do that once. if you try to jump twice on the same wormhole, you get à 4 minutes timer, which forbid you to jump again here.

you can easily apply this system to docking.

well, then explain me what you can do currently, and what you can't anymore after this change ? cause i really don't see what you mean here.