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Isotope prices on the rise

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joyous the
Slippery Penguin
#101 - 2013-08-13 01:05:02 UTC
Grozen wrote:
I'd say few people got burned very bad just recently.Good luck selling at 17k/pu never forget the general rule get in quick get out quick this is not swing trading folks.


Which is why the mining laser market doesn't increase, because swing trading isn't a real thing. Called patience my friend, then maybe someday you'll have enough to afford an Amarr trader. Blink
Rthor
Smugglers Inc.
#102 - 2013-08-13 01:35:58 UTC
All you really have to do to be successful/rich is be productive and front run goons.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frontrunning

Will the goons shut up? If not great!
Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#103 - 2013-08-13 03:40:35 UTC
Umar Umarhabib wrote:
Sabriz Adoudel wrote:


They (or some other entity with massive purchasing power) are definitely investing heavily in destroyers


Whoa that's some massive buying power



Maybe a slight exaggeration by using the word 'massive', but there's not all that many entities in game capable of buying up 30-50b ISK worth of a single hull type. I'm pretty sure we're looking at that level based on the price hike.

There might be a thousand individual players that *could* afford that, a hundred that regularly carry enough ISK to do it without hurting badly, and a much smaller number of alliances.

I support the New Order and CODE. alliance. www.minerbumping.com

mynnna
State War Academy
Caldari State
#104 - 2013-08-13 04:31:52 UTC
Sabriz Adoudel wrote:
Umar Umarhabib wrote:
Sabriz Adoudel wrote:


They (or some other entity with massive purchasing power) are definitely investing heavily in destroyers


Whoa that's some massive buying power



Maybe a slight exaggeration by using the word 'massive', but there's not all that many entities in game capable of buying up 30-50b ISK worth of a single hull type. I'm pretty sure we're looking at that level based on the price hike.

There might be a thousand individual players that *could* afford that, a hundred that regularly carry enough ISK to do it without hurting badly, and a much smaller number of alliances.


...

You just have no idea the scale of isk that many individuals and "entities" have in this game, do you?

Member of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal

Felicity Love
Doomheim
#105 - 2013-08-13 04:43:04 UTC
Sabriz Adoudel wrote:


Maybe a slight exaggeration by using the word 'massive', but there's not all that many entities in game capable of buying up 30-50b ISK worth of a single hull type. I'm pretty sure we're looking at that level based on the price hike.



Stranger things have happened. For example, there's always the "PLEX method"... and CCP will happily sell them to anyone with the coin or plastic.



"EVE is dying." -- The Four Forum Trolls of the Apocalypse.   ( Pick four, any four. They all smell.  )

Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#106 - 2013-08-13 04:50:49 UTC
Sabriz Adoudel wrote:
Umar Umarhabib wrote:
Sabriz Adoudel wrote:


They (or some other entity with massive purchasing power) are definitely investing heavily in destroyers


Whoa that's some massive buying power



Maybe a slight exaggeration by using the word 'massive', but there's not all that many entities in game capable of buying up 30-50b ISK worth of a single hull type. I'm pretty sure we're looking at that level based on the price hike.

There might be a thousand individual players that *could* afford that, a hundred that regularly carry enough ISK to do it without hurting badly, and a much smaller number of alliances.


I am but a non-actively playing 2009 player and I could buy 3 times of that. Quite sure there are many "entities" able to move whatever they want.
P3po
Perkone
Caldari State
#107 - 2013-08-14 13:35:42 UTC
I know quiet few individuals earning that much ISK in profit from manufacturing ... per month. Not couting their other activities.

So yea, it is not really much today.
Marsan
#108 - 2013-08-15 08:49:54 UTC
Sabriz Adoudel wrote:
Umar Umarhabib wrote:
Sabriz Adoudel wrote:


They (or some other entity with massive purchasing power) are definitely investing heavily in destroyers


Whoa that's some massive buying power



Maybe a slight exaggeration by using the word 'massive', but there's not all that many entities in game capable of buying up 30-50b ISK worth of a single hull type. I'm pretty sure we're looking at that level based on the price hike.

There might be a thousand individual players that *could* afford that, a hundred that regularly carry enough ISK to do it without hurting badly, and a much smaller number of alliances.



30-50B massive amounts of isk. Uhh that's like 2 supercarriers maybe 3 if you fit cheap. 50B is on the low end of space rich.

Former forum cheerleader CCP, now just a grumpy small portion of the community.

Phoenix Jones
Small-Arms Fire
#109 - 2013-08-15 18:05:14 UTC
Check the killboards, there have been some massive kills based on T1 hulls that people put nothing but purple crap in (I guess it is pretty to them).

There are some people who have hundreds upon hundreds of billions of isk (not corporations, single people). If you are good at market trading (buying low/ selling high), and do so consistently, you could easily make 40, 80, 100 billion a month.

I believe 6 or 7 months ago, there was a guy who left eve and gave Eve Uni 770 BILLION isk. Now it was removed from the game as he was using a automated program (Bot) to do his buys and sells for him, but it was just buying and selling stuff on market.

If you are good and dedicate the time... yes you can make BILLIONS just on that.

Yaay!!!!

brinelan
#110 - 2013-08-16 17:12:46 UTC
Grace Ishukone wrote:
I only have one question to you Goons.

Why do you kill independent real players in the Caldari ice belts. but leave the botting fleets with the freighters behind them alone?


Seriously, I just don't get it. If you want to destroy EVE as a game, you only need to keep on targeting normal players for long enough. There is the saying don't fly what you can't afford to lose, but let's get real here - most veterans many years ago stopped having any real risk at all in pvp, because the ship cost nothing, the implants cost nothing, and if you lose everything so what, plenty more in the hangar. The same does not go for new players, particularly miners in their first barge or their first ever exhumer. When you gank those people, you risk them quitting the game - I know it, I've seen it, and I miss my friends who walked out of EVE never to return. You may well say "good riddance plenty more" ... but that's the problem, there simply are not that many people interested in an old game where there are precious few powerblocks, where you can't fly the big ships for years, and newbie ships mean nothing in sov warfare. A thousand rifters really can't hurt a nyx.

So by all means go have fun, mess with ice prices. But come on ... use your brains. If someone is obviously new or a highsec carebear ... give them a pass. Gank the bots fleets ... unless, of course you approve of bots. I don't. But then again, if enough real players who like mining quit, we'll need bots or all the capitals in the game will be grounded.


Caldari space isn't the only hisec space to hang out in. If you don't want to get blown up you have been given plenty of time to go find somewhere else to mine.
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#111 - 2013-08-17 13:30:00 UTC
Came expecting Isotope discussion.

Leaving very disappointed.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882

Felicity Love
Doomheim
#112 - 2013-08-17 14:27:26 UTC
... was cancelled... lack of interest... and nobody sorted the catering. Shocked

"EVE is dying." -- The Four Forum Trolls of the Apocalypse.   ( Pick four, any four. They all smell.  )

arabella blood
Keyboard Jihad
#113 - 2013-08-17 17:56:17 UTC
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wk-jT9rn-8

Troll for hire. Cheap prices.

Mohandar Sabezan
Doomheim
#114 - 2013-08-23 23:33:57 UTC
Mynna's 44.44 orders have started to disappear, better sell fast!
mynnna
State War Academy
Caldari State
#115 - 2013-08-24 00:46:51 UTC
Your post made me sad because it gave me hope that nitropes were back over 1k/unit, since that's where all my orders actually are.

Member of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal

Kendra Coldera
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#116 - 2013-08-24 08:34:12 UTC
mynnna wrote:
Your post made me sad because it gave me hope that nitropes were back over 1k/unit, since that's where all my orders actually are.


Seems you will have to do more killing!
Mohandar Sabezan
Doomheim
#117 - 2013-08-24 17:03:28 UTC
Kendra Coldera wrote:
mynnna wrote:
Your post made me sad because it gave me hope that nitropes were back over 1k/unit, since that's where all my orders actually are.


Seems you will have to do more killing!


Last I heard the ice interdiction was delayed to later this month due to lack of interest. Not sure if it will still take place.
Sir SmashAlot
The League of Extraordinary Opportunists
Intergalactic Conservation Movement
#118 - 2013-08-25 00:11:23 UTC
The slower than expected start has the early exit speculators cheering and those still holding either panic selling or crying that they missed out.

Time will tell whether the slow start was a ruse or a whimper.

I believe popcorn is undervalued right now. Big smile
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#119 - 2013-08-25 06:19:31 UTC
Sir SmashAlot wrote:
The slower than expected start has the early exit speculators cheering and those still holding either panic selling or crying that they missed out.

Time will tell whether the slow start was a ruse or a whimper.

I believe popcorn is undervalued right now. Big smile


Slow starts are the best, they create the long lasting trends.
Felicity Love
Doomheim
#120 - 2013-08-26 01:17:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Felicity Love
Plenty of dormant (read: "Anchored") towers out there not burning fuel. Instead of fighting over ice, many folks opted for the "meh" solution and just turned off some/all of their towers, and in so doing they negated a large part of the potential effect of CCP's much desired "OPEC" style crisis to generate conflict.

Try again, CCP. Another 20%, AT LEAST, because you didn't grasp the player "CBA'd" factor.

"EVE is dying." -- The Four Forum Trolls of the Apocalypse.   ( Pick four, any four. They all smell.  )