EVE General Discussion

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How long does it take for a 'carebear' to not be bitter after they have been 'griefed' and is the amount of 'grief' they received directly related to how long they remain bitter?

Using Matrixskye/Matrixskyemk2 as an example, he has been bitter for years. What could have happened to make him so bitter after so many years? Was his corp destroyed by a war dec, did someone flip his can?

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It depends upon what ship the carebear is flying.

For example, let us presume that the carebear is flying a bantam (mining frigate).

A solo bantam with 2 miner I's can mine 250 m³ per minute, which yields 2500 Veldspar every minute.

2500 Veldspar yields 7000 Tritanium at perfect refine.

A bantam and two miner I's requires:
5095 Tritanium
1592 Pyerite
254 Mexallon
46 Isogen
2 Nocxium
2 Zydrine.

Costing a total of 40,000 ISK. That's being generous, however, as you can find a bantam on the market for under 20k, and miner Is for under 5k. Presuming that each unit of Tritanium mined is worth 3 ISK, the bantam pilot can earn 21,000 ISK per minute.

This means that a carebear flying a bantam frigate can be ganked sustainably approximately once every 2 minutes. Call it once every 5 minutes to account for the amount of time needed to warp to/from station.

LONG STORY SHORT: it doesn't matter how hard the game gets for carebears - everyone can always just down-trade to cheaper ships.

Alright Aaron, Leave Matrix out of this... Honestly why should players constantly argue about other players or slander them if in retrospect you know that they are either going to (a) fight back or (b) just think of you as a moron or (c) both... All i know is the more that I see people targeting people like Matrix and Traci and other people who are just playing to play the game and beyond anything else if they want to interject let them but do NOT provoke them to respond because you know something, I will defend people on here when its needed and besides this place needs to have friends and not enemies sure your "friends" might end u p popping you when you enter nullsec or help you when they see you flying in your federation's space ... What networks you make is up to you but to trash people on the forums is really looking to me that you have no class or character, if you really think Matrix is bitter, thats HIS and his friend's business DO NOT start me on how you look to the community right now because honestly if it wasnt for my going to dinner with my mother inlaw and my husband's family (yes i am what you think I am) **** off if you dont like it... I would go into alot more detail... Matrix doesnt deserve this nor does Traci or anyone else who are being the sideline workers. I will NOT tolerate people causing wars because they need something to ***** about while they are fapping to things while playing... or getting blowjob services from under the desk ... Enough is Enough is Enough... you guys need to know when to ******* quit! Get your mouth off of the bottle and Grow UP!

True. But just like a man can survive on a dollar a day or less but they very few would choose to do so, very few players would keep playing under those conditions. If a player is unable to meet their in-game goals over a substantial period of time, they're not going to keep playing. Until eventually Eve's population will consist of one strangely masochistic player in a system who keeps undocking his noobship for the 50 rabid griefers all desperately trying to target lock him :)

hmmmm

A lot of this depends on two things:

1. The level of emo rage of said griefer (how many times his mother's boyfriend touched him, how ugly he is, how many times a day he is forced to smile and say "you want fries with that?", etc)

2. The amount of "tears" cried by the target, ranging from nothing at all, meaning the griefers will simply assume that there victim was so upset that he was at a loss for words, to confirmed raging screaming "that was my only ship" tears.


I would also assume that when the day comes that some kid get griefed into hanging himself in the closet, the griefers behind it might retire, having achieved the Holy Grail of griefing (the only lesser achievement in this field is when girls target another girl to make fun of to the point their target gets and eating disorder and dies from it).

The answer to the OP's question can be found here.


When I make ISK using non-pvp methods, I do it at a rate of about 150-200 million per hour. Granted this is impossible to do when you're left with nothing, but I have plenty of close pvpers/griefer friends who'd give me a ship/money loan. It takes me just five hours to accomplish what takes you a whole week. You've "learned how to make ISK quickly," and yet you're still being severely beaten, just like you're severely beaten when you get exposed to pvp.

How did you win EVE exactly?

No... he's right. I get this. I agree with this. His "win" doesn't necessarily reflect a "loss" of another... for him "winning" is self sufficiency based on whatever method he's using to run the OP he alluded to. It's the angle... that little place in the sun you can find in EvE if you are lucky or clever or unscrupulous enough. It's that point where you can pay for all of your ships and PLEX and you eliminate any "grind" in the game. That's a good place to be... and it is as close to a "win" as I think you can get...

Cheers to you, Ptaci...

Oh, I get it. It's just like when they "win" after they're able to warp away their stabbed Atrons before I can lock them at a gate using a battlecruiser, and are then so confident in their EVE abilities that they call me a virgin and/or insult my mother.

Winning.

One carebear can feed the tears of multiple griefers for years

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ns9oAGnK9CU